IDI Bronco Project

[Can30Diesel]

I don't know who told you this, but its horse hockey. The DMF exists ONLY to diminish the noise. I'm running 4 ZF-5's with Lucky Mod conversion flywheels in my fleet, and NO Issues other than noise, and when used with a sprung clutch disc, noise not that bad. I ran my diesel Bronco with a solid clutch disc for 3 years as a daily driver ON PURPOSE to determine if there is any truth to the above claims, and there is none. After 3 years, I just couldn't take the noise any more so I put in a sprung clutch disc, but the flywheel is still solid. None of the trucks so equipped have had any flywheel, clutch, or transmission problems at all. I run straight 30wt non-detergent motor oil in the ZF-5's, and aside from some shifting challenges in cold weather with a cold engine, there are no ill effects.

So what I am gathering here is there is no other functional gain with a dual mass vs a single mass flywheel other than noise reduction? Is that accurate? If that is the case then what is the noise difference experienced when using a sprung clutch disc with a dual mass flywheel as compared to a sprung clutch disc with a single mass flywheel? Considering the cost difference between them it had to be substantial to warrant the kind of feedback to justify the additional spend for Ford I would think.

Also, what is this "lucky MOD conversion" you speak of?

Were any of these test vehicles used to regularly haul or tow heavy loads? As I understand it Ford only put these dual mass flywheels in the diesel trucks which would make me think that the typical use of the vehicle might have played a role.

I have been hiding in T19 land for too long I guess. Thanks for any additional answers you can provide.

 

[Can30Diesel]

I also saw a bunch of threads from this forum on the DMF. So I won't muddy up my project thread with that stuff. I will just do more reading.

 

[freebird01]

the lucky mod is essentially turning a dmf into a smf by bolting the two halves together.

 

[pastorjeep]

subbed

 

[Can30Diesel]

Well I took a road trip to visit RiotWarrior and came home with some more parts for the bronco.

Thanks to that awesome guy, I now have a rust free tailgate, a boat rack and a rear tank diesel fill neck for the project.

He's good company too! Had lunch with him at a local pub featuring architecture from an old wood and iron bridge in the area.

While we yacked, I explained my issues with the frame horn missing on my bronco. He offered a solution that would help my bronco project and his supercab bronco project.

We are trading bronco frames, his is even prepped for idi acceptance. So that should be happening soon.


Tailgate installed

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[Agnem]

Hey I need that coolant reservoir and your rear tailgate! Sell them to me! The bottle... the tailgate... Sell me your children! Bruwahahahah (waiting for somebody to cue the movie that could have come from )

 

[freebird01]

Zee little girl....how much for zee gurl!...


John Belushi at his best!

 

[Can30Diesel]

Zee parts hoard! Itz mine!

 

[Can30Diesel]

Ok, lets get this thread back on track.

Update time.

My buddy and I pulled the frame out of under my bronco..


Not exactly worksafe approved, but you do what you have to with what you have. Don't worry, it was a very slow and careful process. No close calls etc.

The body now sits on 4 rounds nice and low and safe.

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Then another buddy of mine helped me strip the frame down to almost bare, then the other buddy and I picked up the frame and placed it on the utility trailer.

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Then it was off to Riot's place with the frame, to pull the frame out from under his bronco. He had much cooler tools!

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So now the frame is back home, waiting to be stripped down to nothing, mocked up with the new suspension system, cleaned and painted.

The adventure continues!!

Thanks Al for your continued contribution to the project and of course to both my buddies for being there to do lots of the work.

 

[riotwarrior]

Uhm....what bout the project sup that was there today? She deserves zome recognition too

No worries man ya tractors n such make life so good....not lot heavy lifting goes on here if ya know what I mean.

Cannot wait see that bad boy all done up painted frame sd hangers n such...gonna be a beast!!!

 

[Can30Diesel]

Yes, my Daughter, she was there and was my happy to help tool getter.

She got to see some of the stuff Dad does when he and his buddy are gone for most of the day!

Now that I have this frame, the project will get real interesting, real fast.

 

[laserjock]

Cool. I'm confused though (not an unusual occurance). Are you swapping frames? Something wrong with your frame or just helping out?

 

[IDIoit]

X2....

 

[Can30Diesel]

My original frame had one of the front horns cut off, I am converting from coil to leaf suspension so I need both horns in place. To be safe I would rather have a frame that has both horns in place rather than welding another one on.

Riot's bronco frame is complete, he has plans to use the back half in another project, and since the front of mine is already less than ideal, its better if he cuts that one rather than a complete frame.

As a result, we are just trading frames, which is now done.

Now I have a complete frame which lets me start figuring out the specifics of the coil to leaf conversion as well as other stuff.

Clear as mud?

 

[riotwarrior]

Ya frame swap cause i dont need what I got and he does and I can use what he had...lol