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I found a f-450 being parted out and im going to go check it out. I have read threw the tech articles on this and it doesnt seem to hard. I just want to make sure I get everything that I need.

I know I need all of the lines from the ps pump to the booster.
Should I get the 450 power steering pump also and if I get that I wont need the reservoir adapter right? Should I change over to the 450 master or is it ok to open up the mounting holes in the new booster and use my master cyl?
 

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Get all you can. I just did it to mine sice I had a doner truck, I had to buy the resivor from ford and I used a comperssion fitting to splice the pressure line together since somone messed up the origional one. Also get the pedal! The pin is in a diffrent spot and messes up the pushrod angle if you dont change it.
I need to find an auto pedal for mine, my doner was a manual.
 
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Get all you can. I just did it to mine sice I had a doner truck, I had to buy the resivor from ford and I used a comperssion fitting to splice the pressure line together since somone messed up the origional one. Also get the pedal! The pin is in a diffrent spot and messes up the pushrod angle if you dont change it. I need to find an auto pedal for mine, my doner was a manual.

I did not have hte problem. I Have not heard of any one else going through it either.
 

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what exactly does the hydroboost do just make the pedal firmer and apply more braking pressure? I can lock up my tires and the rabs will kick in but it just doesnt stop that fast.
 

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Hydroboost can make higher brake line pressure than vacuum boost which means more stopping power under serious load/weight. Make sure your brake lines are in good shape.
 

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what exactly does the hydroboost do just make the pedal firmer and apply more braking pressure? I can lock up my tires and the rabs will kick in but it just doesnt stop that fast.

Truck don't stop that fast cause once the RABS kicks in you're relying mostly on your front brakes to slow the truck down. Clamping force in the front calipers is directly proportional to the line pressure you can apply to them, which is where the vacuum booster falls short - a good vacuum booster can crank out up to 1400 psi line pressure, but that's about it, realistically you're looking at 1200 or so. Hydroboost on the other hand is capable of adding about 800-1000 psi over a vacuum booster, so when you jump on the brake pedal you get nearly twice the clamping force at the front brakes, hence the vastly improved stopping performance. There is a downside however, and that's related to not the hydroboost units itself, but the F-Superduty master cylinder - it has a larger bore than the F350 and F250 masters, because the rear brakes of the F-Superduty are discs and their calipers require more fluid volume to be pumped in them than our wheel cylinders do - that extra volume can be achieved with either a longer stroke of the master cylinder piston (makes for a very bad pedal feel), or with a larger bore, Ford obviously chose the latter. Larger bore in the master cylinder makes for less mechanical advantage in the hydraulic system. So if you want to get the best mechanical advantage and most caliper clamping force you need to use your factory master cylinder with the F-Superduty hydroboost unit. In reality you can use the F-superduty master as well just fine, it will make for a bit stiffer and also higher pedal, which actually is quite improved pedal feel over factory setup.
 

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the pin in a non-issue of the OBS generation.

Mine had to be moved. With the pin in the factory spot there was a very steep angle on the linkage but nothing was binding. I moved the pin up to the the same spot as the manual pedal I have from the doner but now my pedal is too high. :dunno
 

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OK, what exactly is the OBS bodystyle - '80-'91 or '92-'96? I know one need the pin moved and the other don't, which is which?
 

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ok cool but wouldnt that extra pressure on the front brakes just lock them up easier or am I missing something?
 

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