miked
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I thought I would update what I did with my drive line.
I decided to check all my angles, starting with the engine as per chart above.
This chart came from a 1994 manual.
To be clear, I installed a zf5 with transfer case into a 2wd automatic truck, but I am keeping it as a 2wd. Just like the option for a lower gear range.
My modified transmission support bracket had set my engine at 6.5 degrees. It took a 3/4 thick shim on top of the transmission mount to bring the engine to the 5.5 angle found in the chart above.
It then took a .200 shim under the support bearing to bring the first driveshaft to the 4.6-degree angle.
I attribute this partially to the fact that the transfer case brought the front drive shaft to a lower position.
The second drive shaft ended up at 7.3 degrees instead of 8.6 which I believe is probably caused by 30-year-old spring sag.
Anyhow, I decided to do some research on how to do the calculation for a 2 piece drive shaft and only found some vague a+b=b+c formulas that did not work for me.
But I did find an online calculator at Spicer called the torsional analysis calculator in which you put in your driveline angles and drive shaft lengths, and it gave you a pass or fail with explanation.
Needless to say, I spent more hours than I want to admit playing with it.
Found that when I put in the numbers from the ford chart. The drive train was good until you passed 3100rpm on the drive shaft. Then it received a fail.
But when I put in the numbers from my drive train with the 7.3-degree angle rear driveshaft, it was good passed 4000 rpm. Ford must like their trucks loaded.
Anyhow, I thought this calculator might be of interest to others who like going down rabbit holes.
I decided to check all my angles, starting with the engine as per chart above.
This chart came from a 1994 manual.
To be clear, I installed a zf5 with transfer case into a 2wd automatic truck, but I am keeping it as a 2wd. Just like the option for a lower gear range.
My modified transmission support bracket had set my engine at 6.5 degrees. It took a 3/4 thick shim on top of the transmission mount to bring the engine to the 5.5 angle found in the chart above.
It then took a .200 shim under the support bearing to bring the first driveshaft to the 4.6-degree angle.
I attribute this partially to the fact that the transfer case brought the front drive shaft to a lower position.
The second drive shaft ended up at 7.3 degrees instead of 8.6 which I believe is probably caused by 30-year-old spring sag.
Anyhow, I decided to do some research on how to do the calculation for a 2 piece drive shaft and only found some vague a+b=b+c formulas that did not work for me.
But I did find an online calculator at Spicer called the torsional analysis calculator in which you put in your driveline angles and drive shaft lengths, and it gave you a pass or fail with explanation.
Needless to say, I spent more hours than I want to admit playing with it.
Found that when I put in the numbers from the ford chart. The drive train was good until you passed 3100rpm on the drive shaft. Then it received a fail.
But when I put in the numbers from my drive train with the 7.3-degree angle rear driveshaft, it was good passed 4000 rpm. Ford must like their trucks loaded.
Anyhow, I thought this calculator might be of interest to others who like going down rabbit holes.