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Alright so the mechanical lift pump went bad in my truck, I bought an electric facet and also a carrier transicold fuel pumps. Both pumps don't supply enough fuel and I tried mounting them both in the frame and also in the engine bay. I get a trickle of fuel when in the engine bay but not enough to supply the engine with fuel, I ran all new fuel line from the selector valve to the engine bay and it did not help. If I can't figure this out in 2 more weeks i will definitely be interested in swapping a 12v cummins into it.
 

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Well that escalated quickly....
Sounds like something ain't hooked up right, or you have an obstruction in your lines. Which is probably what happened, and A) could have caused the mechanical to fail. B) made you think the mechanical failed.

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If I reved the engine up to 1500rpm and let it come back to idle, it starts to lope and then dies. I've changed the fuel filter 3 days ago and it did not help. After the engine dies the fuel filter is only 1/2 full
 

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Like I said I replace the rear tank fuel line this past winter and I also replaced the line from the selector valve to the engine bay
 

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Still doesn't mean there's nothing in there.
Have you blown out the line's and selector valve?

Try bypassing the selector valve. Run a hose straight from the tank to the pump. Or even from a fuel jug into the pump. It'll let you know if there's a problem downstream.

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I've been fighting this fuel issue for the last month and the truck has not moved during that period of time. The drivers side head gasket leaks and the transmission is starting to go out. I already have a zf-5 to replace the e40d and this engine is starting to nickel and dime me so unless it's gunna cost less that $100 to fix this issue I'm am gunna consider a cummins swap
 

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Will laugh my ass off when the cummins goes in with the same issue...... You either got a clogged selector valve, clogged pick up tube or kinked line
 

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Still doesn't mean there's nothing in there.
Have you blown out the line's and selector valve?

Try bypassing the selector valve. Run a hose straight from the tank to the pump. Or even from a fuel jug into the pump. It'll let you know if there's a problem downstream.

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Alright so I disconnected the line off the selector valve and ran it to a can of fuel and the truck runs without a hitch. I'm gunna replace the selector valve since it is original and see if that was the problem. Thank you 79jasper
 

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Try cleaning up yours. If it's the OEM one, there's not a direct replacement. Only aftermarket.

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There are direct replacements but $$$$

If it's not burnt up or anything, blow it out. You've probably got chunks of shower head in it.
 

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I thought with the replacements you had to change the harness plug. And the ports were orientated slightly different.
Could be wrong.

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I bought a Ford one a few years ago and it fit right in. I think it was $400, so kind of pricey.
 

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Just a couple of thoughts. You still have a fuel starving problem with no idea as to why. I have to agree that changing the engine will solve nothing,since your not getting the proper amount of fuel delivery.
Check/replace the schrader valve in the fuel filter housing. A strong fuel pump (either type) and weak spring on the schrader valve will stop the flow of fuel in a heartbeat.
Harbor Freight sells a cheap,as in under 7 bucks hand suction pump. This thing will suck the hub caps off a 57 Chevy. Hook it up to the feed line going to your pump and see how "easy" it is to draw fuel into the pump. If it draws a vacuum and almost no fuel is being drawn into the hand pump you know for certain you have a plug somewhere.
If this happens,reverse the fuel lines on the hand pump and force fuel backwards towards the tank. You may free up the plug/clog.
I used this hand pump to find an air leak in the on-board generator's 16 foot fuel line. It turned out to be hidden on the back side of a hose clamp.
Do you have the original or aftermarket water/fuel separator? The original has to be one of the worst ever fielded. A sweat sock in a beer can.
These things leak air like a sieve when they go bad,and it will go bad.
If you have an aftermarket F/W Sep, fire up the engine and look to see if you have air bubbles forming due to a vacuum leak.
I put in a Racor Diesel F/W Separator. Not cheap,but first rate.
Just a couple of ideas.
 
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