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itsacrazyasian

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I had taken today off of work to take care of a few things (including trying to get an exclusion to be able to back my truck in at school, as the 15 dollar tickets are getting to be a pita. But it was mostly for a little GP test.

Last night i had replaced my bullet style glow plugs (all factory International) with AC delco 60g. I removed the controller and left the stock harness in place and built my own harness using 4 gauge from the solenoid to a splice point on the motor and 4 individual wires go to each GP on the passenger side and another 4 gauge going over to the drivers side which again splits to individual wires leading to the drivers side GP's. This way i can revert back to the stock GP and controller if i ever decide to.

These are 10.5v self limiting and even after being powered for 240 seconds on the bench they were still glowing with no swelling. So i bought a new set for my truck. the problem is they are slow glowing.

Last night, it was 78F. wouldn't start (1 try only) with no glow time. 5 seconds of glow and she lit off no problem. (she will start without glow plugs at that temp, it just needs a few revolutions). Drove it to my friend's food distribution warehouse and left it over night in 35F. 30 seconds of glow time gave me a no frills smooth start. ran it over to the freezer at -10F and left it for 4 more hours (when i parked it in the freezer the engine temp wasn't high enough to budge my gauge or come off high idle). This time i gave it 45 seconds of glow time and it tried but didn't start (1 try only). Another 35 seconds gave me a good clean start.

This was all done with good group 65 interstate 700cca batteries, good clean battery cables and the crankcase filled with Lubromoly 10w40 HD diesel oil. Fuel was 85% #2 and 15% watf.

My last set of glow plugs kicked the bucket due to a stuck glow plug solenoid. They had ~60K on them and looked great coming out. Very little carbon (considering the high % of wmo i run, it looks like the water/**** injection + slightly advance timing) does wonders to keep the motor clean), My benchmark was my old 91 IDI that would coke the glow plugs in about 20K. While they weren't terrible, they weren't nearly as clean as these are. I'll snap some pics of the old GP's that came out when i find my connection cable.

I figured this would help someone if they were considering stepping outside the norm of OE glow plugs. I was debating on going with the 6v 6.9 plugs but frankly i don't see any talk about these plugs.

btw all my bench testing was done with the old plugs out of my Suburban (which are 60g) and were all in good shape considering they saw 3 sets of heads and my Burb was modified for extended glow times. they all glowed fully and not just at the tip. I never had swelling with them in the Suburban. So while i can't promise you readers that they can't swell like a OE plug, i can say that they didn't to me.

Use this info at your own discretion.
 

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:rotflmao You are crazy! Testing your glow plugs by parking in a freezer... in Florida!!

Sorry, but thats just hilarious.LOL

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itsacrazyasian

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gotta give him a "A" for creativity in a environment that rarely sees freezing temps.;Sweet

Well in a few months i'll be heading home to CO for winter break. I'd rather find out now that my truck has issues starting in the cold than wait till then and work on my truck out in the cold. There will be times i can't plug my truck in.

The other side note is i wanted an alternative to the traditional glow plugs. Something a little more flexible. So while these take longer to glow, it seems that they saturate the head with more heat as my starts are far smoother than they ever have been. My finger just hurts holding the button down for so long. So i'm thinking about switching to a momentary toggle.
 

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I have 60G plugs in my truck and they have been in there for three years now. The 60G plugs are shorter than the stock plugs, and I think I may have some carbon build up in the holes as it takes a little longer glow cycle than it used to. I am going to pull all the plugs and test them this weekend and stick a pipe brush down the glow plug holes to see if they are stopped up. I could not be happier with the AC Delcos. I also have a couple of buddies that are using them too since the only other plug NAPA can get is Autolites, and NAPA is the only parts store in town.
 

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I wonder how the longevity is in Our IDIs and if the tips explode or fall off.
I am happy with my $89 ford ones. No worries and the perform flawlessly
 

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Well in a few months i'll be heading home to CO for winter break. I'd rather find out now that my truck has issues starting in the cold than wait till then and work on my truck out in the cold. There will be times i can't plug my truck in.

The other side note is i wanted an alternative to the traditional glow plugs. Something a little more flexible. So while these take longer to glow, it seems that they saturate the head with more heat as my starts are far smoother than they ever have been. My finger just hurts holding the button down for so long. So i'm thinking about switching to a momentary toggle.

Give me a ring aling when you hit the mile high city. We could meet up for a brew
 

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