Batteries load tested ok but voltage dropping

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Drove from work, about 30 minutes or so. when I started it at work it was a sluggish start and had to use ether . This has been acting up for a week or so. Batteries had 12.4 VDC after stall.
They are toast. At least one is(electrically one drags down the other battery), and they need to be replaced in pairs.
12.8v is standing voltage and to be at 12.4 so quick after driving 30 mins is a bad deal. I just went through something similar.
 

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So, two things:
After cranking for a bit and then checking, I could totally see 12.4V on the batteries.

Our starters(all types) have 4 brushes contacting the armature. If one of these four wears out to the point of a bad connection, the starter will run at about half-speed. Sounds like a dead battery, even with full voltage.
 

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Did you try ether after stall If so kinda sounds like a fuel issue for how's your fuel pressure

Fuel pressure running between 6 and 7lb a few week prior, cannot check now as there is not enough juice to get the truck to start, I di replace the mechanical fuel pump a few months back.
 
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So, two things:
After cranking for a bit and then checking, I could totally see 12.4V on the batteries.

Our starters(all types) have 4 brushes contacting the armature. If one of these four wears out to the point of a bad connection, the starter will run at about half-speed. Sounds like a dead battery, even with full voltage.

I agree, borrowed 2 Yellow top Optima Batts from work. Gave a bit more umf, but but not enough to start. Lifetime warranty Starter, just a friggin pain in the A$$
 

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I agree, borrowed 2 Yellow top Optima Batts from work. Gave a bit more umf, but but not enough to start. Lifetime warranty Starter, just a friggin pain in the A$$
If those batteries were charged then you have a bad connection at the starter, the wire/terminals, or inside the starter itself. There's only so much that can be going on here.

A voltage drop test would help pinpoint the issue, lots of good videos on YouTube about that.
 

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Yep... I would start by just measuring the voltage directly at the starter while cranking. From the stud itself to the body of the starter. If it's good, the problem is the starter. Otherwise start chasing bad connections.
 

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If those batteries were charged then you have a bad connection at the starter, the wire/terminals, or inside the starter itself. There's only so much that can be going on here.

A voltage drop test would help pinpoint the issue, lots of good videos on YouTube about that.
Well, I attempted to start with the Optima Batteries. Very sluggish at first 13 VDC, crank for longer than usual maybe 30 seconds, after about 10 seconds the starter sped up but nowhere near "normal" speed, still no start. Began to smell that unique electrical burn. Turned key to off position and starter stay engaged, disconnected batteries, felt batts for heat, definitely cool to touch, battery cable a little warm, went down to starter, very hot and untouchable! Batteries ended up at 12.7 VDC. I am now convinced the starter is AFU! Checked at O Reilly's and had to order the warranty starter, will be in on Friday. Going to build all new cables at work tomorrow.

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Yep... I would start by just measuring the voltage directly at the starter while cranking. From the stud itself to the body of the starter. If it's good, the problem is the starter. Otherwise start chasing bad connections.
Did that tonight 13 VDC to 12.8 in a 25 or 30 second time span!

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Well, I had been on the road for a few weeks, finally got home yesterday and replaced the starter. Yes, the starter was to whole problem!
 
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