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I have a few questions about running UMO. Will it hurt anything on the fuel system if I put 5 gallons of oil in with a full tank of diesel? Do I need to do any modifications to the fuel system before running any UMO? Also what size of filter do you think would be good enough to filter the UMO? Thanks Matt :dunno
 

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My truck ran fine on WMO, but coincidentally my injectors and injection pump died, but they had 198000miles on them. I used a 10 micron fuel filter, but I would like to filter down to 5 microns, make sure that you thin the WMO with diesel to like a 60% WMO 40% diesel or something like that others will chime in, I'm not an expert on this:rolleyes:.
 

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I've run it, but never more than maybe 2-3 gallons in 15-20 gallons of diesel. No problems yet, hopefully won't have any. I'm not saying that's the best mix; it was just convenient at the time is all.
 

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Ya, for sure. I screen into my tank to keep the big stuff out. Then mix the fuel in my tank, and pump out through a 10 micron fuel filter. On average with that type of filter my fuel filter in my truck will need to be done about every 8000 miles. I suppose if I filtered smaller I would be changing my engine filter less. It's all cost to me, and my last fuel filters I got 12 for $55 so it's cheaper to change fuel filters on my truck then go smaller particle size on the tank.
 

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I also have run it for a number of years. I can't tell you you won't have any problems, but I CAN tell you, that if you pay yourself for every gallon of WMO you use (at the same price of diesel), that when you DO have a problem, not only will you have the money to fix it, but you'll be able to buy something really nice for the wife or girlfriend while your out shopping. ;Really WMO is all about economics. Not better performance, or more reliability. But what little problems it does cause are easily digested, and any loss of performance is tolerable. Some report better performance. :dunno It all depends on what your burning and how it is mixed. Unlike diesel, there is no standard for WMO and it is difficult to maintain consistancy unless your creating the stuff yourself and you know exactly what is in it. No modifications to your fuel system are necessary, but I am in the process of putting in an auxiliary diesel only tank on the Moosestang so I can start up and shut down on streight diesel. The reason... it can get hard to start when it's cold.
 

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Someone pm'ed me about this so i will tell you guys what i told him. I use string wound filters to clean my WVO and WMO from www.micronfiltercatridges.com. They are cost effective and do a good job of cleaning the oil. With WVO i filter doen to 5 micron, but with WMO i would filter down to 1 micron. The difference being what the particulate matter in the oil is. . .french fries vs metal shavings. since the oil is filtered down to ~20 microns by the trucks filter (i makes sure not to dump the filters contents into oil) two filters say a 10 and a 1 would work easily. especially if you are just runnin a few gallons at a time. I think filtering down to that level will greatly decelerate the demise of your IP.

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this is not my setup but it is the one mine is based off of.

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i have mine running in series rather than this parallel setup. I push the oil through with a diaphragm pump. i know a lot of folks use a harbor freight water pump that does the job.
 

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Someone pm'ed me about this so i will tell you guys what i told him. I use string wound filters to clean my WVO and WMO from www.micronfiltercatridges.com. They are cost effective and do a good job of cleaning the oil. With WVO i filter doen to 5 micron, but with WMO i would filter down to 1 micron. The difference being what the particulate matter in the oil is. . .french fries vs metal shavings. since the oil is filtered down to ~20 microns by the trucks filter (i makes sure not to dump the filters contents into oil) two filters say a 10 and a 1 would work easily. especially if you are just runnin a few gallons at a time. I think filtering down to that level will greatly decelerate the demise of your IP.


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I would think that would be very wise.
I've always run diesel in my truck, but I've done a number of cars on veg, and I've always settled it for at least a week before filtering and then cold gravity filtered ( cold for the veg to catch the fats at that stage of filtration instead of them ending up in the tank, not a problem with WMO ) it down to 2 microns First through a goldenrod 15 micron waterbloc , then through a 2 micron. What comes out is cleaner than pump fuel and my filters on the cars last darn near forever. I had a car and some of my filtered veg on display at an alternative energy show one time and that stuff is so clean that I had numerous people who weren't paying too much attention, trying to buy jars of my "honey" :rotflmao when I pointed at the jars filled with the unfiltered gunk that went into those jars, the stuff didn't look quite so appitizing LOL.

If you take the time to clean things up front, it will save you a lot of headaches . That said, if you play, you pay, there's no free lunch. but like Mel said, if you're putting aside $2.60-$3.50 or more a gal that you're not having to pay for , it would only take you about 233 gallons of WMO to save up for a new moosepump :D

If someone is going to be running a whole lot of WMO without heating it first before trying to pump it( that means heating the tank it's in hot enough to thin it where the lift pump can handle it easily ), they don't need to running any kind of vehicle lift pumps, they need to be shopping at the industrial tug boat and ship engine supply houses and get an electric lift pump rated for bunker C . They make these big churning behemoths specifically for moving thick oil fuels that have to be heated before they can be burned. If you get one of those, you'll never need another lift pump.
 

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The most I have run is 7 gallons of used oil in a tank of fuel with a stock setup and a purolator 5 micron filter, and if it is below 10 degrees ( thats 45 for the US folks) the fuel filter light will come on driving up the first hill 4% grade at freeway speed 4 minutes from our house, but if the truck is warmed up in the driveway first, the light doesn't come on going up the same hill. So we drive on the no mix tank till over this hill and then switch over. So far have used over 200 gallons of used engine oil with the stock set-up. Every fill-up is 7 gallons of used oil mix in the rear tank.
 

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i used this for filtering some old farm diesel but i will be using it for WMO soon

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