Someone needs to buy this Hauler,..

[Diesel_brad]

Or personal use(I.E. not for profit), at least thats what the DOT told me when I called to register my homebuilt trailer. 26,000 pound thing still applied though...

Yeah, NO. Only farm hauling farm product within 100 miles of the farm, or RV.

It is kinda funny. You 3 cops the same question and you will get 3 answers. They have NO CLUE what the laws are

 

[jhnlennon]

Yeah, NO. Only farm hauling farm product within 100 miles of the farm, or RV.

It is kinda funny. You 3 cops the same question and you will get 3 answers. They have NO CLUE what the laws are

Per the US DOT website http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm

"Drivers are required to obtain and hold a CDL if they operate in interstate, intrastate, or foreign commerce if they drive a vehicle that meets any of the classifications of a CMV described below"

Notice the part that says COMMERCE. In my opinion according to the wording of that, my DOT field agent was right. If your doing it for personal use, like to haul a boat or a firewood I dont believe the wording of the law pertains to that. The field agent did say that once you cross state lines its a whole different ball game.

 

[The Warden]

 

[bike-maker]

When I used to crew on a drag boat, we had a big Kodiak toter home, and a 43' gooseneck behind that. The truck was registered as a motorhome, and had the "not for hire" stickers on the doors, but was otherwise unmarked. Total weight was just barely under 26k.
After driving that thing all over the west coast, what we learned was that, every DOT officer, cop, etc. has a slightly different interpretation of what the law allows. I cringed every time I drove that thing past a weigh station. Our ass was saved a couple times because one of us had a CDL, otherwise we would have been screwed. It all depended on who it was that had you pulled over.
Other guys running the same circuit had similar problems; especially the guys with big rigs licensed as motor homes.

 

[OnDaRoad]

Good points Mike ...

When I used to crew on a drag boat, we had a big Kodiak toter home, and a 43' gooseneck behind that. The truck was registered as a motorhome, and had the "not for hire" stickers on the doors, but was otherwise unmarked. Total weight was just barely under 26k.
After driving that thing all over the west coast, what we learned was that, every DOT officer, cop, etc. has a slightly different interpretation of what the law allows. I cringed every time I drove that thing past a weigh station. Our ass was saved a couple times because one of us had a CDL, otherwise we would have been screwed. It all depended on who it was that had you pulled over.
Other guys running the same circuit had similar problems; especially the guys with big rigs licensed as motor homes.

Mike,

Good points ....

I forgot to add:

If you race - if you show your car - if you go to any event
that could offer awards (ribbons, trophies, gift certificates)
you are considered commercial ...

If your combine tow rig & trailer exceeds 80 feet,
you will be pulled off the road

I talk with folks all over the country ...

TX & PA were the worst this year for harrassing

PA was pulling over folks sticking out 6 inches
past the end of the trailer deck with a car ....

New phrase I came up with Enforcement For Revenue

Its' all about money folks ....


Jim

 

[trapper]

I like listening to people Bit*h about laws hehe, maybe towcat will chime in at some point. even tho i never pulled anyone over and say "hey boy how heavy is that there truck" lol

 

[Diesel_brad]

I like listening to people Bit*h about laws hehe, maybe towcat will chime in at some point. even tho i never pulled anyone over and say "hey boy how heavy is that there truck" lol

You are a cop?

 

[njdub]

I live in Medford and have seen this truck in person many times. This guy I believe worked at or owns primes hoagies. It was a daily for a while and is pretty clean

 

[FORDF250HDXLT]

I know the law ...

If you operate a tow vehicle with a GVWR of 10,001 or greater

You need a CDL

Jim

if this is true,there sure are a lot of folks buying a lot of new f350's these days im sure without a CDL lol.and a LOT of previous buyers who bought F-superduty (pre '99 F450 if you will.)

http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/payload/

i see you placed "tow vehicle" in bold,so perhaps this is where im confused? whats the definition of a "tow vehicle"?

i can't image a CDL is required for a light duty truck,nor this van posted in the first post.i just can't.
if that was the case,how would U-Haul be in business today lol.there is no way on earth they'd let ya out of the lot with a truck rated for over 10k GVWR (like many of them are,and then some.and we all know,people load them FAR beyond that little door jam sticker. ) without proof of a CDL of course.

 

[trapper]

You are a cop?

Guilty

 

[OLDBULL8]

You are a cop?

Doesn't the Handle TRAPPER indicate that.

 

[Thatguy]

So it did. All.that says though is either the towed vehicle exceedes 10k gvwr or the combination exceedes 26k gcwr. I don't see that van thingy weighing 15k or having gcwr exceeding 26k.

 

[Darrin Tosh]

I live in Medford and have seen this truck in person many times. This guy I believe worked at or owns primes hoagies. It was a daily for a while and is pretty clean

Cool,,.thanks for the info,.

I did a couple of searches and he has had it for sale for a while and has dropped the price from like $7K.

Get it for $4k its a pretty good deal if it is that clean. Needs more and better pics of it to help with the sale.

 

[Diesel_brad]

if this is true,there sure are a lot of folks buying a lot of new f350's these days im sure without a CDL lol.and a LOT of previous buyers who bought F-superduty (pre '99 F450 if you will.)

http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/payload/

i see you placed "tow vehicle" in bold,so perhaps this is where im confused? whats the definition of a "tow vehicle"?

i can't image a CDL is required for a light duty truck,nor this van posted in the first post.i just can't.
if that was the case,how would U-Haul be in business today lol.there is no way on earth they'd let ya out of the lot with a truck rated for over 10k GVWR (like many of them are,and then some.and we all know,people load them FAR beyond that little door jam sticker. ) without proof of a CDL of course.

You are correct. If you get diesel power MAG, this past month had one of the writers get his CDL to do the "king of the hill" LEGALLY. The "tow vehicle" the ANYTHING that is doing the towing(pickup, car, medium duty truck, bug truck, tow truck).

And you DO Not need a CDL unless the "tow vehicle" is registered over 26,000lbs OR the load being towed is registered over 10,000.

In English.

Your pickup weighs 7,000lbs(registerd for 18,000) and you are towing another pickup(7,000) on a 4,ooolb trailer(registered for 12,000). You weigh in at ONLY 18,000. But YOU NEED A CLASS A because the trailer is over the 10,000 mark. Just ask any HOT SHOT car hauler. 90% of them are under 26,000 and they all have class A license

You DO NOT NEED a CLASS B to just drive the truck because it is NOT registered over 26,000.

BUT if you do REGISTER it over 26,000 you DO NEED a CLASS B to just drive the truck.

A truck that is registered for over 26000 you need a Class B license. And you can tow a trailer(under 10,000lbs) with just a B license. If you tow a trailer over 10000, you need an A

 

[Thatguy]

Its always been that way. I thought you were saying you needed a cdl to drive the vehicle
Without a trailer.

FWIW........ I think anybody pulling a trailer or driving an RV should atleast have an endorsment that requires a skills test.