You dont even knwo what you typed........
I fixed it... As I said I would. My apologies. I never claimed to be perfect and gave a disclaimer right up front. The girlfriend came home in the middle of writing this and I made dinner... Sometimes I don't pick right up where I left off well.
---------they do have boost controlers, the gate is the boost controller, its the spring in the gate that controls the boost pressure (exhaust gate opening pressure)
I figured most people think of a boost controller as a separate device. I'll clarify that above when I get around to it. I didn't know people thought of a wastegate as a boost controller.
------no once again it wont vent the intake manifold, once again you dont knwo what your talking about. and you mean compressor housing not compressor wheel. terminology is important if your attempting to teach and your not in a knowledgeable enough position to be teaching anyone.
I guess normally your throttle blade is before your intake manifold. My bad.
-----my argument is not that MBC are not as easy, the best way to do it is have a gate that you can change the spring, MBC can fail or block up and alow overspool, less things to go wrong if you just have a gate w. a replaceable spring. Pulling a waste gate is one clip and 2 screws................
Some wastegate actuators are sealed. I've never heard of issues with MBCs failing or blocking up. It's basically a spring with a ball at the end. Either way, I still think turning a dial (from the cabin, if you wish to install it that way) is easier and offers you a wider range than spring tension does.
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"A wastegate has no direct impact on the exhaust housing of the turbo. It's simply something that can be 'added on'. "
------------Absolutely incorrect. This is the most important info when talking about gated and no gated turbos for these trucks.
When designed for these trucks a gated turbo comes with a smaller exhaust housing witch is why the gate is added, its a performance advancement in turbocharging.
This is the most important difference and aspects of these system and the fact that you dont know or under stand how these systems are designed or why goes to show that you jsut need to delete this thread.
I have a Tial wastegate sitting in a box on my shelf downstairs. Give me one reason why I couldn't go stick it on an exhaust manifold of anything out there, space allowing. Some turbos are designed with internal wastegates, some are not. Whichever you pick, it's your choice. You'll find either option in just about any flow/pressure combinations you would want pending flange design and brand. If you choose to use a turbo with a smaller exhaust housing to get some earlier spool up, you'll need a wastegate one way or another. While it seems like a chicken and egg argument here... You pick your turbo based off of your flow and pressure requirements/desires... Then you decide whether you would want or need a wastegate.
You said your an "engineer" in the other thread? this can not be the truth, at least not an automotive or mechanical engineer....
I could tell you I'm a PhD in physics (which I don't)... Wouldn't matter regardless. As I said, I don't care to list credentials. It's the internet - if you think somebody is credible, that's your decision.
use the search button and you might learn something.
I have no issue using a search button, and I have many times in the past. I offered this thread up for discussion. In the future,people can find it with the search button. It has a link right off the top of the thread to the other post, and I noted that is why I started this one.
I didn't intend for the thread to become an argument. I prefer discussions, as they are normally more beneficial.