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h2odrx
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Cool cause it is cheaper that other additives? I'm still adding my own special bled of stuff.. Bure Bean Refined..... 1% of my stuff ups the lubricity 65%!
when my block was apart i coated everything with two cycle oil but don't they add some kind of color to it so you know it is mixed?
I was wonder about this...
when my block was apart i coated everything with two cycle oil but don't they add some kind of color to it so you know it is mixed?
I was wonder about this...
tonkadoctor
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Thanks for posting that.
2 cycle oil has blue dye in it.....Hmmmmm now we get to start the dyed fuel arguments again
2 cycle oil has blue dye in it.....Hmmmmm now we get to start the dyed fuel arguments again
IDIeselman
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I was a little suprised to find powerservice offers no more lubricity then the diesel fuel we are running.
swampdigger
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Amusing, cause I used some 2 stroke oil today!
Great post!
Great post!
HammerDown
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Hmmm 175,000 miles on the OE Injectors and IP and it has always purrrrred like a Kitten. So PS must be doing something good for my Engine, for the past 20 years.
sle2115
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Hmmm 175,000 miles on the OE Injectors and IP and it has always purrrrred like a Kitten. So PS must be doing something good for my Engine, for the past 20 years.
I got 148,000 on factory stuff as well. PO used Powerservice religiously, so do I.
IDIeselman
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Yeah well how many years have you been running ULSD?
very interesting, i would like to see more certification but i can believe that two cycle fuel can help. it is designed to be a good fuel lubricant in small doses. any more info from some other sources conferming this???
SKimballC
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I've been adding a 50/50 blend of 2 stroke oil and Powerservice for the last couple thousand miles. It hasn't affected my mileage one way or the other, but the truck is a lot quieter, and it smokes a slight bit more.
I previously added Stanadyne fuel treatment to every tank. I guess I haven't quite made my mind up about it yet.
I previously added Stanadyne fuel treatment to every tank. I guess I haven't quite made my mind up about it yet.
tonkadoctor
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OK, before we get started on a Power Service bashing thread read everything. This guy has proven pretty much nothing about anything.
He leaves out information to his discredit and an MSDS sheet is pretty much worthless exept to Emergency response personnel and people who like to read them......Here's the rest of that line about lubricity.....
” Slickdiesel meets the new ASTM HFRR 520 Lubricity Specifications for the United States and the more stringent European Specification of 460 in most fuels.
Here's a little something else he left out on the Diesel Kleen that's on their website........
Diesel Kleen +Cetane Boost contains Slickdiesel , a proprietary Power Service diesel fuel lubricator that exceeds the ASTM D-975 maximum specification for lubricity in Low and Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) fuels.
Adding more lubricant to your fuel WILL increase the lubricating properties.
He shows an MSDS sheet which doesn't say squat about lubricity OR the exact chemical make up which is withheld as a trade secret. Chemical Specific information is available to health professionals.
While I'm sure 2 stroke oil would probably make a good additive it would cost me twice as much for 1 qt per tank full the Power Service Diesel Kleen is costing me for 4 oz per tankfull.
I'll stick to my Power Service as it is a product that was made to be a diesel fuel additive, I've used it with great sucess for 20 years, it saves me money and it has helped my truck run noticably smoother, quieter and more powerfull since I started using it in her.
He leaves out information to his discredit and an MSDS sheet is pretty much worthless exept to Emergency response personnel and people who like to read them......Here's the rest of that line about lubricity.....
” Slickdiesel meets the new ASTM HFRR 520 Lubricity Specifications for the United States and the more stringent European Specification of 460 in most fuels.
Here's a little something else he left out on the Diesel Kleen that's on their website........
Diesel Kleen +Cetane Boost contains Slickdiesel , a proprietary Power Service diesel fuel lubricator that exceeds the ASTM D-975 maximum specification for lubricity in Low and Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) fuels.
Adding more lubricant to your fuel WILL increase the lubricating properties.
He shows an MSDS sheet which doesn't say squat about lubricity OR the exact chemical make up which is withheld as a trade secret. Chemical Specific information is available to health professionals.
While I'm sure 2 stroke oil would probably make a good additive it would cost me twice as much for 1 qt per tank full the Power Service Diesel Kleen is costing me for 4 oz per tankfull.
I'll stick to my Power Service as it is a product that was made to be a diesel fuel additive, I've used it with great sucess for 20 years, it saves me money and it has helped my truck run noticably smoother, quieter and more powerfull since I started using it in her.
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IF IT'S SLICK---I DUMP IT IN
Many of the Dodge/Cummins guys have been using Two-stroke oil for quite some time with excellent results.
Myself, I filter my used oil and dump it in, find some cheap oil >> dump it in, Power-Service, Marvel-Mystery-Oil, Two-Stroke, even straight vegetable oil >> dump it in.
One point that he made having nothing to do with lubricity, that still got my interest, was the point he made about the anti-gel additives being mostly commonly available petroleum distillates, such as zylene, naptha, and the like.
I would like to know just what anti-gel really is, and what ratio it should be added to fuel to prevent gelling.
The prices of store-bought anti-gels have gotten way out of hand and if I can make my own for less, I will go that route.
Many of the Dodge/Cummins guys have been using Two-stroke oil for quite some time with excellent results.
Myself, I filter my used oil and dump it in, find some cheap oil >> dump it in, Power-Service, Marvel-Mystery-Oil, Two-Stroke, even straight vegetable oil >> dump it in.
One point that he made having nothing to do with lubricity, that still got my interest, was the point he made about the anti-gel additives being mostly commonly available petroleum distillates, such as zylene, naptha, and the like.
I would like to know just what anti-gel really is, and what ratio it should be added to fuel to prevent gelling.
The prices of store-bought anti-gels have gotten way out of hand and if I can make my own for less, I will go that route.
hheynow
the misanthrope
That is a good link. For added lubricity why not use 5-10% biodiesel? I know that pre-'93 vehicle fuel lines are not B100 compatible, but is such a small percentage a concern?
swampdigger
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I just got back from a quick burn, with a tank of 100:1 two stroke oil.
Not bad! Can't comment on the mileage yet, but it's somewhat quieter at idle. And it smokes waaaaaaay more on accel with my turned up pump, which is sweet
Not bad! Can't comment on the mileage yet, but it's somewhat quieter at idle. And it smokes waaaaaaay more on accel with my turned up pump, which is sweet
jim_22
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Sulfur itself does not effect the lubricity, but the process to remove the sulfur also reduces lubricity. They are supposed to put it back in ULSD to the 520 HFRR level, but this MAY not be enough and furthermore, quality may vary. Using 2-cycle oil is probably OK, but it is expensive. I would rather use a bit of vegetable oil with the Power Service. The PS is great because of the water killing quality (white bottle) and the cetane boost.
