Will a 460gas ZF5 fit our Diesels?

[nicksorenson]

Old Mister Bill has me convinced I can fix my e4OD and I really believe I can do it if it's not too far gone already. But I found a good deal on a 5 speed and may buy it just in case.

What I found is a ZF 5 trans and whole package (EVERY PART that goes with it) from a 94 460 gas truck. Will it fit our IDIs?
thanks!
Nick

 

[BROWNIEBOY525]

i am almost positve that it will not bolt up

 

[Exekiel69]

Do a search its been discussed but I think no (no sure) it does not and the gearing is different than our diesels.

 

[Dieselguy123]

No the diesel and gassers have differant bell housings, the top bolts will line up but all the rest are about 1/2" off, plus I think the dowell pins will not line up also.

 

[nicksorenson]

So are there two models of ZF 5?

 

[nicksorenson]

Ok Bummer. Oh well. Hopefully I can fix my E4OD.

Thanks for the heads up guys.

 

[riotwarrior]

So are there two models of ZF 5?

No there are at least three models that I am aware of.
1 fits 300 IL six and 302/351 Windsors
1 Fits 460 or even a 429 or I suspect a 351/400M or clevland as well
1 fits 6.9/7.3 IH diesel

 

[typ4]

I have a pic that shows that you can drill the diesel to fit 460. I did it on mine first time around.should be able to go the other way also, same casting just different holes. It is posted on here somewhere.

 

[Diesel JD]

Figures that you can, but you better know what you're doing with aluminum.

 

[kcw12]

No there are at least three models that I am aware of.
1 fits 300 IL six and 302/351 Windsors
1 Fits 460 or even a 429 or I suspect a 351/400M or clevland as well
1 fits 6.9/7.3 IH diesel

Riot your close on that
1 fits the small blocks (300 six 221/260/289/302/351 and 351 cleveland)
1 fits the 385 series (370/429/460) and the Modified (351m/400m)
1 fits the 6.9/7.3 diesels

 

[riotwarrior]

Riot your close on that
1 fits the small blocks (300 six 221/260/289/302/351 and 351 cleveland)
1 fits the 385 series (370/429/460) and the Modified (351m/400m)
1 fits the 6.9/7.3 diesels

Just a note of correction here.

The 351 Cleveland uses the same bell housing as a 351M/400 and the 385 series big block which is 429/460.
The 351/400M "M" being a Modified cleveland blocks are the same bell housing patterns.

As for a 385 series 370 CI engine I cannot personally say I know of it that does not mean it does not exist though.

Ford's six cyl engines and the 302/351 Windsor are the same bell housing as each other as previously stated.

 

[Double-S-Diesel]

Riot your close on that
1 fits the small blocks (300 six 221/260/289/302/351 and 351 cleveland)
1 fits the 385 series (370/429/460) and the Modified (351m/400m)
1 fits the 6.9/7.3 diesels

there are actually 2 zf5 diesels, a s-42 which is idi and an s-47 which is psd,
but they will interchange

 

[kcw12]

any real difference in a s42 and s47???

 

[Double-S-Diesel]

1st gear ratio, and hp/tq ratings

 

[82fordtruck]

how much was the transmission? I'm near you and may be inerested in it.