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I pulled my bed off today, (1985 6.9 ) to rebuild the fuel system. Shower heads are in pieces. The fuel senders have bad boards. I test a range from 10 to 80 Ohms on the ends of the resistor board. Can anyone confirm this? I have seen posts about using a universal with about a 33 to 277 rating, but I don't think thats gonna get it. I have to go to the city tomorrow so i will take my meter and go shopping for units that can be removed from their holders and transplanted to the Ford's.
 
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Keep us posted on your searches. I have the factory manuals that discuss the ohm readings and will post them as soon as I find the section again. I have trucks the same age and have either bad or no fuel level readings. The board from gassers are the same as ours, and I have been trying to find some good ones to transplant.

My front tank, I fear, has lost its shower head because I keep filling it with only 16 gallons. Not looking forward to crawling under there again, but at least it isn't the rear tank.
 

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I have these numbers saved in a text file, based on info posted on here and at STD over the last 10 years. I haven't verified them independently, but hopefully someone who knows for sure can corroborate or refute these :)

'80-'86 trucks:

70 ohms empty, 10 ohms full

'87-'97 trucks:

22.5 ohms empty, 145 ohms full
 

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No luck, even in the big city of Modesto, CA, no one stocks much of anything. I did get a part number for a universal one like pictured in the unreadable copies on another forum, that has a range of 0 to 90 Ohms. Thats close enough. I got a load of Aeroquip hose and German style clamps to do the job with, will update with a real how-to when i get er done.
 

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0 - 90? isn't that backwords? I always get confused :mad:
 

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didn't have the fuel pickup on that part from summit. how are you going to get fuel out?
 

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It's not brain surgery, i have spent years professionally building parts for obsolete vehicles. I am going to remove the sending units from their frames and place the new ones on the old pickups. Before i do that, i will take both original frames and zip-tie them to cardboard, marking out the swing range and length of the original float arms. Then, (by means i will not determine until the parts arrive), I will mount the new senders and bend the arms to duplicate the original's function. If the resistance operating range is backwards to the original i will simply mount the new units upside down. Once I have succeeded, I will write it up and post it with photos. I intended to be workig on new copper lines right now, but Wife's in the hospital so priorities have changed. I should have this done, along with all new U-joints and brake job within a week.
I found a nice lady running a warehouse filled with Racor and other brand fuel separators in Modesto yesterday, PBT Distributors, http://www.pbtdistributors.com/ Her web pages is unfinished, but I saw she has a lot of good stuff so call her if you need something. Good prices and parts to rebuild the old units. She mentioned she has a plunger and seal similar to what goes wrong with the original ford unit, but i do not have my original to see if it can be fixed. maybe one of you guys in the region can drop in? She also has a large roll of Aeroquip 5/16 line for the return lines, way better than the Goodyear and Gates junk in the parts stores. I got 6 feet of it for 2 bucks a foot. I paid 12 bucks a foot for the blue 3/8 Aeroquip line at GHX Rubber down the street.
 
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That one from Summit has a good price. Someone else on here needed a new sending unit also, but his lines where rusted out on top. He was going to try a unit for a gas truck that had a 460. The 460's had a return line like the diesels, but also had electric in tank fuel pumps(not all did though) so a hose would have to be installed to take the place of the electric pump which you would not need to buy. And the 460 setup was offered in the 87-dwn trucks with the 90 ohm unit, and it was also offered in the 88-up trucks which had the different resistance.

He hasn't written back in that I know of, to tell us if it worked.
 

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OK, they are done, work fine in static testing plugged into the truck. I haven't filled my tanks yet, won't until after i replace all U-joints and do a brake job, and drop the bed back on. Since i could not get all the crumbs from the old pickups out of the tanks, I made pickup screens. Pictures are posted, but i won't be doing a write-up for a few more days as I have a lot going on. Photo album,
http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/arborigine/F-250%20fuel%20senders/
 

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I bought one for a 86 with a 460, Works perfectly..
 

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Nice effort on rebuilding the pickups and sending units.;Sweet Good luck with the wife's illness and hospital stay.:angel:

The only thing I would worry about is using copper over stainless. If I remember correctly, someone had long term issues with the copper lines. The pictures are great and this will surely make a good tech article when you get it together.
 
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