Denso? Mitsubishi? Where Do I Start?

[idi_econoline]

Gonna take my Mitsubishi starter in to be checked, while my engine's out.

I read through a thread from a year ago: http://www.oilburners.net/forums/sh...tarter-or-Gear-reduction-What-s-the-concensus

Giving newer people a chance to chime in: Would it be worth it to upgrade to a Denso, if the Mitsubishi's bad?

 

[towcat]

if you don't want your mitsu starter, I'll pay the ship for it
mitsu and ND starters are gear reduction starters. only ACdelco is the direct drive starter.
mitsu will take abuse like severe voltage and amp drops where a ND will burn up. basically if you have a numbskull driver who thinks they can get a 6.9/7.3 started by running start rpms below 300, you want a mitsu. if you have bad teeth on you flywheel, a ND starter is much more tolerant of rotten flywheel teeth. why? early mitsu starters have a nosecone that supports the front end of the starter bendix drive. later PSD mitsu's and ND's don't have a front support so the gear can "walk" a little to be compatible with bad flywheel teeth.
hope this helps.

 

[FORDF250HDXLT]

autozone sells reman oem Mitsubishi starters with lifetime warranty.this is what im running in chip truck.

 

[idi_econoline]

Hmmm. Interesting. My flex plate has good teeth, and I'm the only intended driver. I've spent many years drivin' these engines, and so far I haven't broken one yet.

Crimped-on plastic terminal-end on solenoid loose enough to be moved. That alone tells me the unit's old and kinda beat-up.

 

[chris142]

What comes on my 6.9?

 

[mohavewolfpup]

My starter has to be "bumped" (put in gear and rolled) to start sometimes. Otherwise you get a horrible grinding sound

 

[towcat]

What comes on my 6.9?

from the assembly plant it would have been a delco starter. but i seriously doubt it is still there. i've only seen one truck in all the years I've bought and sold these trucks with a delco starter still in it.

 

[chris142]

Can i tell without taking the starter out? My truck only had 59.5k on it when i bought it. Now shows 81k and i have not changed the starter yet

 

[chris142]

My starter has to be "bumped" (put in gear and rolled) to start sometimes. Otherwise you get a horrible grinding sound

You have damaged teeth on your flywheel or flexplate

 

[towcat]

Can i tell without taking the starter out? My truck only had 59.5k on it when i bought it. Now shows 81k and i have not changed the starter yet

get underneath and take a pic of it. post it here and I can tell you which one of the three it will be.

 

[ToughOldFord]

Just a FWIW, but I had read that the Delco was only used on the first year IDI, in '84 they upgraded to the gear reduction.

 

[Kevin 007]

if you don't want your mitsu starter, I'll pay the ship for it
mitsu and ND starters are gear reduction starters. only ACdelco is the direct drive starter.
mitsu will take abuse like severe voltage and amp drops where a ND will burn up. basically if you have a numbskull driver who thinks they can get a 6.9/7.3 started by running start rpms below 300, you want a mitsu. if you have bad teeth on you flywheel, a ND starter is much more tolerant of rotten flywheel teeth. why? early mitsu starters have a nosecone that supports the front end of the starter bendix drive. later PSD mitsu's and ND's don't have a front support so the gear can "walk" a little to be compatible with bad flywheel teeth.
hope this helps.

Bosch also makes a direct drive. I have one on my 84 at the moment. its done well.

 

[rhkcommander]

I bought a ND (i think) from powermaster. That with freshly charged batteries was enough to start the old engine without glowplugs! Works great on new engine too

 

[The Warden]

Just a FWIW, but I had read that the Delco was only used on the first year IDI, in '84 they upgraded to the gear reduction.

Both my truck and my old van (both 1984 MY) had direct-drive starters when I acquired them...I don't know if they were original or not, although I want to say the van's starter had an Exide sticker on it. They didn't last very long I think I replaced both of them within a year of acquiring the vehicle...

 

[towcat]

Bosch also makes a direct drive. I have one on my 84 at the moment. its done well.

that will be a first. please post a pic of the starter. you got my curiosity.