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Ok...well its time to think about replacing the slicks....i mean tires that are on my truck...

currently its got dayton 235-85-16's on it. im wanting to go to something wider so when i drive in my yard it doesnt rut it up as bad...

im thinkin i can get 285's under it with no issues (no lift) and i already got a set of 16x8 rims i want to use.. so it brings me to my question...

what brand tires hold up the best under these heavy beasts? Im going with an a/t at minimum but im not agaist using an m/t. I love the bfg's but man do they get expensive quick. ive heard mixed reviews on the nitto terra grapplers..

the truck is used mostly for back and forth to work (7 miles one way) but i do get into areas of wet grass and sometimes some mud on a regular basis with it...its a little embarrassing when you got to stick it in 4x4 just to get out of your yard hahaha. how long do straight up mud tires last under these trucks...i cant imagine very long.. i was thinkin maybe the mud king's cause of the price and i know others that had good luck with them...
 

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i just got some Nokian Vatiiva 285/70/16 on my CC and i like them so far. they are load range D but they are still rated to carry the gawr and gvwr of the truck. they are an all weather tire with sipes and are awesome on wet pavement. only when i try to back my camper uphill on wet grass do i need to kick in the 4x4.

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personally, i wouldn't put anything under our rigs that wasn't an E class tire. im needing new tires as well, but havn't found the right set yet. let me know what you end up getting so i can check them out.
 

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Surprisingly, the higher end MUD-treaded tires have been way outlasting many of the same brand STEER tires, so long as most of the miles are highway miles.


I despise so-called A/T tires as they are unfit for any terrain and a very poor choice for either.

On the road, they soon get all dipped and choppy; and, off the road, they are no better than genuine straight treads.

From personal observations, if you are on the black-top nearly full time, TOYO Open Country HT or their more costly M-54 are hard to beat.

For off-road traction, my first choice would be the Maxxis Buckshot Mudder and second would be Toyo's Open Country MT.


Another tire we have had real good success with is the El Dorado ZTR, a Cooper-made tire that, surprisingly, is actually made in USA.
 

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here's the ratings of the tires on my 2 trucks.

3305lbs @ 65psi for the D range, rear gawr is 6084 on my F350, that's almost 600 lbs extra capacity over the rating of the axle

3415lbs @ 80psi for the General Grabber AT2's 265/75/16 on my SD

i agree that E range is better but there are less choices available for sizes when you want a bigger tire. all i'm saying is that there are D range tires available that exceed the weight rating of the truck.

C,D,E ratings are an indication of the pressure the tire will hold more than a indication of carrying capacity. i did not know this until recently when i was shopping for tires and did the research and talked to my tire supplier. as a whole on avarage the E will be rated to carry more than a D range, but the capacity ranges do overlap between the high end of D and the low end of E.

try finding anything bigger than a 265 in an E range and you will find your choices will be limited. and expensive. i paid around 650 for mine out the door, with no balancing weights showing outside the rim (this type of balancing costs a little extra)
 

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mud tires look good and if you need/want them that's fine but i have had mudders act squirrely on pavement in the wet. for trailer towing i like good wet traction. plus there is the noise issue. but mudders do look cool for sure.

i dont agree that AT tries are no better than highway tires. i have done the highway tire thing and on jobsites they do not cut it but i have had good luck and good life out of the General AT rubber i have used for years. i got the Nokians this time only because i needed the tires that day, and that was what i could get.

i know the BFGs have a following but i find them overrated. you can get as much tire for less money for sure.

to each his own :)
 

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You can run Ds on these trucks just fine. Alot of guys with the Superdutys have Ds & their trucks out weight ours. That being said I still like to go with E if I can find it. I got 265/75-16r Cooper S/T LR-E for a 2wd Dodge I had but never got to use em so I mounted em on my IDI when I got it. I've put about 10-15k miles on em & they still look brand new. Go through snow, mud, nice on the street & I should get an easy 50k on em. My buddy's dad runs a set on his 94 PSD in 315/75-16r (35") & get's over 60k pretty much all highway driving. Main thing is to keep em rotated.

My truck after playing in the mud last summer with the Cooper S/T
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I have E's on because of camper hauling, if I didnt need them I would run c or d range , mainly to soften the ride, BUT when you shove one of these trucks hard into a corner stiff tires rule.
I have AT tread, quiet and gives me all the traction I need. They are a Les Schwab brand so that wont do you much good.


There lots of suv take off tires in 265 to 285 sizes around but oem suv crap is a mushy c range.
The pic shows why I run e-load, I am at the tire limit and way over the axle limit, good thing it is a 1 ton and all syn lubed axles and bearings.
 

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If you dont ever drive on gravel roads, BFG T/A KO tires are good, thats what I have. Good in snow, ice, and are real quiet on the road (towed home at 30mph you couldnt even hear them). The only problem is there tread is perfect to pick up gravel and mess up your paint when they come flying out at the speed of light cookoo . Mine are E code, and they were expensive, around $250 a tire. I'm not going to buy another set cause I drive on gravel roads......and my paint is starting to show that.
 

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The only problem is there tread is perfect to pick up gravel and mess up your paint when they come flying out at the speed of light
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I'm not going to buy another set cause I drive on gravel roads......and my paint is starting to show that.



I have running-boards for every truck in my fleet.

For some unknown reason, they have fell out of popularity; and, for that very reason, I have not paid money for a single set of them; either they have came on the truck, or someone at a swap meet has had them with FREE on the price-tag.


From my own experiences, they are worth every bit of their retail cost and installation troubles for the simple fact that they stop all the big rocks that fly from the front tires, thus saving many square inches of paint, and sometimes a side-mirror or glass.;Sweet
 

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I have E's on because of camper hauling, if I didnt need them I would run c or d range , mainly to soften the ride, BUT when you shove one of these trucks hard into a corner stiff tires rule.
I have AT tread, quiet and gives me all the traction I need. They are a Les Schwab brand so that wont do you much good.


There lots of suv take off tires in 265 to 285 sizes around but oem suv crap is a mushy c range.
The pic shows why I run e-load, I am at the tire limit and way over the axle limit, good thing it is a 1 ton and all syn lubed axles and bearings.

i hate to hyjack my own thread but you got any pics of your hitch setup with that camper....ive been wanting to do that on my truck with a piggy back camper but was afraid of the hitch for when im haulin my samurai to go wheelin...
 

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Man I know a guy with a 1990 F-350 with a slide in camper just like that that has a 4+ foot hitch extension and pulls a 27 Albemarle behind it.
 

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i just got some Nokian Vatiiva 285/70/16 on my CC and i like them so far. they are load range D but they are still rated to carry the gawr and gvwr of the truck. they are an all weather tire with sipes and are awesome on wet pavement. only when i try to back my camper uphill on wet grass do i need to kick in the 4x4.

You ought to be real happy with those Nokians. I have Nokians on just about all my cars ( they are all that I will buy new , and I have to mail order the things in from out of state), Winter and summer tires, and the things just can't be beat for traction or longevity ( rain handling with nokians is nothing short of amazing ), and they are all designed for Nordic road conditions, so no matter how tame those treads look, those suckers will grip, and the cases will hold up

I couldn't get any for my truck when I was shopping a while back and I think I wound up with a set of Maxxis Bighorn mudders on the back of my dually. I didn't really want those air pumps on there because of fuel mileage, but I haven't had time, nor the energy to rebuild the posi, and I really don't want to get stuck pulling the 5er out of a campground somewhere , and my old tires just about got me in trouble a few times. THose beasts have done the trick. Nice thing was they were dirt cheap at a tire wholesaler in Tuckerman AR who sells on Ebay, Burgess Tire They don't have any auctions running right now, they usually run in spurts, but it's probably the biggest tire shop I've ever seen,( the place probably sits on between 20 + acres, I've never seen so many tires that weren't at a factory ) , Best I can tell, they buy a semi load of each tire at a time, so they have some insanely low prices .
 

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Man I know a guy with a 1990 F-350 with a slide in camper just like that that has a 4+ foot hitch extension and pulls a 27 Albemarle behind it.

just cause he does it doesnt nessicarily make it right....that just sounds dangerous.
 
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