MidnightBlade
Shiftin' Smooth
I've been needing to do this swap for a while. Read the tech article and still have one question, Why do you have to use the clutch with the springs on it?
SMF conversion
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Fordsandguns
Fords Rule
It will chatter real bad with the solid disc and the smf. The springs in the clutch work in place of the springs in the dmf.
alienturtle
Human
cant say it any better than that...something has to give a little when applying a bunch of torque to the tranny. in the case of the DMF it was the springs in the flywheel. when you go SMF you need the springs in the disk to act as a cushion.
MidnightBlade
Shiftin' Smooth
Would you still need the sprung discs for a DMF welded together?
MidnightBlade
Shiftin' Smooth
Ok, the guy I bought the truck off of put in a brand new clutch, I'll have to tear into it and see if it is sprung or not.
Can you see the clutch discs through the inspection plate on the bottom of the trans?
Can you see the clutch discs through the inspection plate on the bottom of the trans?
Diesel_brad
Dunce
Why are you putting a clutch in? Does it slip or something?
MidnightBlade
Shiftin' Smooth
No, clutch don't slip but the DMF is about to grenade itself
TWeatherford
Full Access Member
I don't think you'd be able to see the springs through the inspection plate, it would still be covered up by the pressure plate. I'm not really a fan of welding either. Short of welding, it will all have to come apart anyway to either do a lucky mod or swap in a single mass flywheel. Unfortunately often a new clutch and its increased friction force over the old one will cause a dual mass to give it up.
Diesel_brad
Dunce
DMF dont use springs in their clutches
So, what do you want to know?
So, what do you want to know?
TWeatherford
Full Access Member
Actually, people often put sprung clutches in with a DMF. The OP could easily have a sprung or unsprung clutch in there, no way to know until its opened up.
Fordsandguns
Fords Rule
Yep, the clutch that I put in when I did the ZF swap has springs in it.
94turboidi
Full Access Member
I have a welded flywheel and a sprung clutch. I bought a whole sachs clutch kit that was for a dmf and it had springs so I went with that one. It cost me like 15.00 to have my flywheel welded and I have drove about 1000 miles on it so far. The only annoying thing is either the TOB they sold me wasn't greased very good or I damaged it when my hydraulics was setup incorrectly. It squeeks alot. I am either going to try to grease it or replace it. Other than that non related issue the welding or bolting seems to work for a lot of people.
If I had the money I would put in another dmf though.
If I had the money I would put in another dmf though.
MidnightBlade
Shiftin' Smooth
I'm going to do the Lucky Mod.
I guess I'll find out if I have a sprung clutch or not when I get the trans rebuilt
I guess I'll find out if I have a sprung clutch or not when I get the trans rebuilt
If you don't, I got just the disc with springs from Autozone.
