Are the idi's worth keeping?

direwulf23

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Lol, well, I mean I don't plan on buying another truck to be MY truck. My personal vehicle. I'll certainly buy/ build other tricks.

1994 Ford F250, 2wd, 7.3L IDI, NA, E4OD

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None of what you mentioned is really a wear part, except maybe the glow plug harness... But that's easy enough to make to your liking better than factory. Kind of like battery cables, some buy the off the shelf parts but for maginally more you can make your own just right and with larger cable. I don't wear out very many pulleys...

Mine is my daily driver and I don't feel nickeled and dimed to death. Yeah it sucked when I went from a 30 yr old truck I had been driving for years and just plain worked to a 30 yr old truck that was new to me. One I knew just plain worked every time no matter what, the other was a big unknown and gave me trouble frmo time to time. Someone mentioned it's better than payments. What are payments on a new econobox or a $50k truck to do what your IDI does? A lot more than monthly parts for even the most run down abused truck. Think about it, these trucks are now ~30 years old. If the previous owner didn't do repairs immediately using quality parts and take the extra time to do it nice (knock rust off, paint, lubricate, proper wiring, etc.) then yeah it'll suck for a bit every time you gotta do something but after a while you get caught up on all the neglect, things are done right, and you're good for another 30+ years without surprises. It doesn't last 3-5-7 or however long those suckers take loans for these days on new stuff, and by then the expensive repairs start coming up.

Sometimes things come all at once, like when I did bearings and brakes on both axles of my trailer that hadn't been done since new 25 years ago. Then the 460 truck needed bearings at 300xxx miles and the rear brakes done with entailing Sterling BS, then the diesel truck needs brakes all around... All I do is bearings and brakes! Got done batteries/cables/starter/alternator in the boat last spring, did the 460 truck not long before that, then the IDI needed batteries/cables/alternator, then the woman's battery died, and our bikes needed batteries in spring too... Right when I got done saying all I do is bearings and brakes it feels like all I do in batteries and wiring! Eventually you run out of bearings and batteries that need replacing though. Beats car payments and making bankers rich on interest buying **** I can't afford though, and when new stuff breaks it's not a quick cheap fix like these older trucks.

Think about it, they made this same basic truck for 17 years and a lot carried over from previous years and into later years. Wear item replacements aren't going away anytime soon. If they don't make it mass market it's because you can find good used or you can make it yourself. Hard parts are still plentiful for most things. Heck you can even get a new OEM quality dash pad, yeah $600 but that's what, one new truck payment? You got me on the rad support, but really you can patch a rusted one up or find a better one to do minor patching on. Eventually they may make one. No matter how you slice it these old trucks are absolutely cheaper, more reliable, and better all around than new disposable junk. IMO the '80-'97 trucks are the last of the real trucks Ford made. Maintain it and it will last forever. Once you're in the "I'll never buy another truck" mindset, you don't worry about that stuff... You just drive it and fix whatever needs fixing when it needs it, you'll always find what you need because they made so many of them for so long.
 

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Depending on where you live, there is a good market for pre-emissions diesels. There are more and more people forgoing the newer electronics laden trucks that get bad fuel mileage and going back to simpler trucks that require much less money to keep going. There's also the guys looking to install more modern running gear into older trucks that don't require any inspections. As long as it doesn't become illegal to own older stuff, I think there will always be a good market for older trucks.
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that's definitely not happening anytime soon in the rust belt.7th gen trucks are seen once in a blue moon.8th gen perhaps a couple per week and 9th gens like mine are dropping like flies with rusted out fenders and beds.many super duty trucks have long since gone to the scrap yards now.i don't see the masses of current power stroke drivers giving up their power to run old rusty idi trucks.the masses will continue to buy newer as always because most are not shade tree mechanics and for many it's simply cheaper to just stay in something newer than pay for repairs + the labor for old trucks.
 

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judging by the amount of people viewing the idi forum compared to all the others on this great website, there's obviously still much interest in these old trucks, thats why i hate to hear of anyone scrapping one out west or down south!
 

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Depending on where you live, there is a good market for pre-emissions diesels. There are more and more people forgoing the newer electronics laden trucks that get bad fuel mileage and going back to simpler trucks that require much less money to keep going. There's also the guys looking to install more modern running gear into older trucks that don't require any inspections. As long as it doesn't become illegal to own older stuff, I think there will always be a good market for older trucks.
Travis..

that's definitely not happening anytime soon in the rust belt.7th gen trucks are seen once in a blue moon.8th gen perhaps a couple per week and 9th gens like mine are dropping like flies with rusted out fenders and beds.many super duty trucks have long since gone to the scrap yards now.i don't see the masses of current power stroke drivers giving up their power to run old rusty idi trucks.the masses will continue to buy newer as always because most are not shade tree mechanics and for many it's simply cheaper to just stay in something newer than pay for repairs + the labor for old trucks.

Well I'm in the rust belt and it was a long search to find my '86 and about a 4 hour drive each way to get it. It's far from perfect compared to a southern or western truck but it's reasonably solid and workable... Was not a plow truck. I ended up with an IDI because I want the government out of my life as much as possible and older diesels are not required to have government inspection here and in many other states.

All I needed was a diesel VIN on a truck with no EFI and they leave me alone. Gas engine means about 1968 is your cutoff to be left alone and while I love 60s vehicles and have driven them daily for a long time, I prefer a Supercab or Crew Cab pickup and they didn't make them back then. So for me, in the rust belt, Travis' statement is 100% spot on. I would not have spent countless hours searching and several 6+ hour days on the road looking at trucks and spending thousands for a truck less capable than what I drove every day at the time if it weren't for government emissions laws and the threat of violence that comes along with that.

Modernize the driveline with a ZF5, NP205, gearvendors, lockers, shackle reversal, add a turbo and call it a day. Better MPG than new truck and more flexibility in fuel type and 1/4 or less the cost when done for a much nicer truck. I'll never drive a "me too" vehicle... Simplicity is reliability is beauty.
 

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Some people just don't think the way we do. I like the simplicity. You take care of it, it takes care of you.
 

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The reason the IDI forums are so "happening" is because the owners are INTO their trucks. If all you want to do is put fuel in and drive it then an aging IDI is not for you, and going to be "not worth it". If you want a truck that will out-live you (with proper maintenance) then you would be hard pressed to beat an IDI. True that some parts are obsolete, but with such a long and prolific production that is hardly a problem. The only cloud I see is the cessation of injector production, along with a dwindling number of rebuildable injection pumps. I urge all IDI'ers to hit your local junkyards and save as many good condition IP cores and injector cores from the crusher as you can. Having a few spares will help keep our trucks running long into the future.
 

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I urge all IDI'ers to hit your local junkyards and save as many good condition IP cores and injector cores from the crusher as you can.

there probably hasn't been an idi truck in a yard around here for a decade lol.now that i think about,iv only seen (verified to me anyway,as you know they're not well marked trucks) a half dozen idi trucks in my travels since owning one since '09 and that's being generous cus i can only think of half that many for sure.
 
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As said, it depends on where you live. In the land of clean, rust-free sheet metal, an IDI isn't a bad choice. Even if all you want to do is repower with something more modern.
Travis..
 

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Just a totally unprofessional opinion here but I recently bought my first IDI--1992 F250 4x4 7.3 N/A ZF5 4.10--with 300k on it and could not be happier. 301,700 miles and it doesn't smoke, consume/leak oil, or complain when loaded with 3000 pounds of crud. The value in these old IDI trucks is just insane when compared to some of the other options in my area. Even the guy I bought my truck from was sorry he sold it. He was the original owner and "upgraded" to a Powerstroke only to be plagued by problems. Heck, even my diesel mechanic just sold his mobile rig Powerstroke because he knew it was going to get expensive to fix it. Even if money was not an issue for me I still would choose an IDI over the newer technology. IDI forever!

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there probably hasn't been an idi truck in a yard around here for a decade lol.now that i think about,iv only seen (verified to me anyway,as you know they're not well marked trucks) a half dozen idi trucks in my travels since owning one since '09 and that's being generous cus i can only think of half that many for sure.

hmmmm, i've purchased 2 idi parts trucks locally in the last 6 months & seen several more being parted out here in the rust belt, i've also met several old-timers while driving my truck who still have 1 or 2 in the barn & rave about them, but i guess i'm in the corn belt as well!
 

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I've owned a lot of vehicles over the past 40 years, and none have even come close to the reliability and low maintenance costs of my IDIs.

Mine were bought new by the D.O.E. and used for nuclear weapons escorts, so they had the best maint possible. After cleaning out fuel algae and replacing a belt, I've done nothing but add diesel for the past four years.

These vehicles are easily going to outlive me.

They are sought-after vehicles in my area. I've only seen two, in four years of searching 15 large junkyards for car parts, and they were stripped to the frame in days.
 

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When I first got my truck, I was a bit skeptical on how well it was going to work out for me, being that it was 24 years old at the time, and I knew nothing about diesels. I had the assumption that because it was a diesel I would end up getting stuck with huge repair bills. Fast forward to now, the most money I've spent on it at once was to buy 4 tires at $200/each. That's pretty good in my book. It's been way cheaper than I expected to maintain.

Sure it would be nice to have a newer Superduty truck, but I just can't swallow the idea of having a possible $5-10k repair bill that may very well require cab removal and the works.
 
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