6.9 IH NA Oil Pan Replacement? whats involved?

[rollincoal92]

hey guys I'm new here an in need of some much needed help. I just picked up a 1985 f-250 with a 6.9 for $375, the reason i got it so cheap is becuase the kid who had it was driving around in the winter with it in 4 wheel alot, and was not greasing the u-joints, so the u-joints blew and the driveshaft swung back and hit the oil pan and cracked it, plus it need a new vaccum pump so i got a new oil pan and gaskets, but i cannot find any help on removing the oil pan and putting the new one on, without pulling the motor, cuz i dont have a hoist. I was told to pull the bolts out of the motor mounts, then but a block under the harmonic balancer, and jack it up till there is room enough to drop the oil pan down some, then pull the bolts off the oil pan, drop it down slighty, take the bolts out of the oil pump, and drop the pan and pump together but if you do this doesnt that mean i might as well replace the oil pump too if anybody know a better way to do this or make this more "efficient" lol please help me out i'd really appreciate it.

ROLLINCOAL92

 

[ford390gashog]

I tried one time but there is just not enough room! Unless there is some magic I missed the engine must come out to do the oil pan!

 

[rollincoal92]

I really wanna stay away from pulling it, only becuause, i cannot find an engine hoist big enough in this town to pull my motor with, plus it just a pain in my ass lol, but i guess if i have to i have to eh?

 

[icanfixall]

Build you own hoist from a 4x6 and support that with some 4x4 beams.A short length of chain around the top beam and a chainfall that will handle 1500 to 2000 lbs. Remove hood. connect to engine and lift out of engine bay. Roll back the truck and be careful working under the suspended load. The dressed engine with accessarys weighs around 1200 lbs. If you place the engine on a stand make sure the stand is a 2000 lbs stand. A 1200 or 1500 lbs stand will not support the weight safely. The engine will bend the stand....

 

[Knuckledragger]

Depending on the damage, you could weld (or even braze) the old pan if you have to. There is no pressure, you could even use JB Weld in a pinch. Then you don't have to worry about pulling the engine.

 

[towcat]

are the any wrecker type tow trucks in the town? I use my wreckers as engine hoists overkill but I never worry about how heavy a motor/trans combo can get.

 

[sassyrel]

i have pulled the pans,,on na engines,,but you wont pull it off with a turbo,,its close,,but it will come off,,exactly the way you were told...go for it..one thing,,DONT jack against the balancer..jack at the crank,,right behind the balancer..

 

[brdmh44]

+2 on the brazing or jb weld option if you have no way to pull the motor! There are a ton of bolts supporting the pan coupled with loads of grease and the scraping required to clean the rails - well, it's just easier to pull it out.

Drain any remaining oil from the pan, brake clean the damaged spot, allow to dry and verify area is clean, then apply your JBWeld and allot it to dry for 24-48 hours. Two of my trucks have been JB Welded because the damage to the pan wasn't significant enough to warrant replacement.

 

[rollincoal92]

hey guys i cleaned the pan with brake kleen and found it has a dent with only 2 small cuts so my plan as of right now is to do what brdmh44 said and jb weld the dent and hole make it flush let it dry, then paint to match, i have some pics of the damage ill upload them onto this thread tonight, thanks guys!

Rollincoal92

 

[rollincoal92]

sorry for the double post admin but heres the pics
it looks worse in the pictures than it actually is, she will be back up and rollin coal in accouple weeks if not sooner!

 

[Trying my best]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slnFCb46IO8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ESJdD-YQo&feature=related

Good luck

 

[riotwarrior]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slnFCb46IO8

Damn fine idea execution and well worth the investment! cures the problem and symptom!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ESJdD-YQo&feature=related

REDNECK 101 but like most redneck ide-erzz they work....kinda quic and dirty....though it just cures the symptom...leaving the problem with little to know protection...

 

[Trying my best]

Yea I really feel bad for you east coast folks.

 

[rollincoal92]

lol im on the west coast, and the pan has a dent and accouple small cuts so im probably just gonna jb weld the **** outta it lol

 

[Trying my best]

I once heard of a guy who tried to use JB weld to "fix" a cracked engine block. I have no idea if it worked. Let us know how your project turns out.