460 starter

[Ironman03R]

I need a 460 starter so I can make sure the engine in the other truck runs before I sell it. Does anyone have one to sell cheap or loan to me for a few weeks?
Do any other starters interchange with it?

 

[tractorman86]

one for a 429

 

[sassyrel]

351m and 400 works also-----

 

[Ironman03R]

I thought about the 351/400 and I have one, but it is different. My starter is a mini starter with its own solenoid. It also looks like the gear is smaller on the 460 starter. Its for a 92 by the way.

 

[tractorman86]

351m and 400 works also-----

that might be right they do share a lot of parts, distributers and such.

 

[Devilish]

m series starters are just like the small block starters with the solenoids located in a remote spot. the 429-460 engines all use the same starter with a solenoid mounted on the starter. I'd say the local boneyard should have one for cheap. Look it up on partsamerica.com and look for a starter there. Then you ban click 'see all vehicles this product fits' to get your interchange.

 

[Mr_Roboto]

The bolt pattern will probably be the same as the 351M / 400 BUT Ford switched to the mini starters with integral solenoid starting in the mid? 80's....

Your best bet is probably a cheap reman from one of the chain auto parts stores. Can't get any cheaper than a chinese rebuild.

 

[Ironman03R]

I think I'm gonna replace the solenoid, it was coroded and I had to clean it up real good to get it moving. I found one on Ebay for about 10 bucks.
The problem I have is that the starter spins good, and the Sol. will move good, BUT I cant get them both moving at the same time so I think theres a short in the solenoid from all the water exposure. When I got the truck the starter had been sitting in the bed for a few years.

 

[Devilish]

When you pull the solenoid off move the plunger by hand to see if it moves freely . If not then find the resistance and lube it. Also check the plunger and where it fits in the solenoid for rust n corrosion then clean accordingly. Hopefully that will get it going without taking your cash with it.

 

[82F100SWB]

Early 385 series engines actually ran a GM/Delco starter.... The 80's motors ran the standard Ford starter, and the 92+ trucks run a permanent magnet gear reduction starter, same as all the later model Ford stuff runs. Even a re-man PMGR is not cheap.

 

[sassyrel]

I thought about the 351/400 and I have one, but it is different. My starter is a mini starter with its own solenoid. It also looks like the gear is smaller on the 460 starter. Its for a 92 by the way.

there the same------

 

[Ironman03R]

When you pull the solenoid off move the plunger by hand to see if it moves freely . If not then find the resistance and lube it. Also check the plunger and where it fits in the solenoid for rust n corrosion then clean accordingly. Hopefully that will get it going without taking your cash with it.

Yeah, thats what I did to get it to move. Works fine by itself, starter spins fine by itself, but when I put power to both at the same time, I get nothing OR the sol kicks out but motor turns really slow. Could the sol be shorted out causing this?

 

[Devilish]

The solenoid beingfried is probably why the starter was in the back of the truck instead of on engine. A new solenoid is about $45. A starter from a junkyard is probably less. That is, if nobody loans you their spare. But, a spare gas starter could be less likely in a diesel forum.