Got embarrassed today by a Toyota

[texcl]

if you break something on the tundra your looking at at least $1000 repair and chances are you can't fix it yourself. To me that is the IDI attraction, I sold a 50K dollar truck and replaced it with an IDI and have have been completely happy with the decision. My kids on the other hand, not so much, lol.

 

[chris142]

My scout 800 got 2nd place. A 7.3 powerjoke got first and a duramax got 3rd.

 

[jayro88]

My dad uses a new Tundra to pull his 30'/8000lb Fifth wheel. It is engineered well and pulls it great. Only real complaints are the MPG while towing and the fact that it carries pretty high RPM's when pulling in any hills etc.

I am sure the brakes and refinement are much better.....though last visit we took a little road trip in my '88 E250 and he was talking about how nice it was to ride in. Comfy seats and lots of room. Said there was nothing better than a "bid ol van" for road trips.

Sounds like your issue was a traction thing. I bet a Limited Slip would do wonders for you.

 

[mblaney]

I would chop that Tundra up into pieces and load the whole damn thing in the bed of your truck and try the pull again.

 

[6.9poweredscout]

My scout 800 got 2nd place. A 7.3 powerjoke got first and a duramax got 3rd.

What's this in, a car show?

 

[92F350CC]

The Tundra is the bottom of the barrel in today's half-tons (well, except for the Titan).

EDIT: My experience with Toyota quality and repair costs resulted in my Lexus being parked and my F350 becoming the DD again.

 

[riotwarrior]

Aww...crap...just toss a locker in that IDI and be pullin...nuff said!

 

[asmith]

Just to jump on the bash toyota bandwagon

my best friend has terrible luck with cars. he buys one, and usually within the first 3 months it needs major work out of the blue. always happens. well he has had a good job for a little while and has saved up some money, decides he is going to break his car curse, by buying a much newer car and with much less miles than in the past, in fact he is going to get a tundra "because they last forever and never need any work"

anyway he ends up dropping 10 grand on an 05 or 06 tundra 4x4 extended cab real nice just under 100k miles. It is a beautiful truck really well taken care of. he does a bunch of research , changes all the fluids, diffs, everything to synthetic, and even gets me to help him change the timing belt, because they need to be changed every 90,000 miles. we change the water pump while we are there because it is buried behind the front cover real pain. anyway does all this and two months to the dot later develops one of the worst knocks you have ever heard sounds like rocks in the engine. he is pissed!! takes it to a mechanic says it will be $1000 to pull the oil pan and have a look! have to pull the engine or drop the whole front suspension subframe to get it off. forget that! my buddy orders a used engine from a junk yard up north with similar milage for about the same price as just to look at the problem and we spend several days pulling the old engine swapping over all his new parts and putting the new engine back in.

runs good now, but he is real disappointed with his milage, he can barley crack 16 unloaded. he moved to san diego pulling a small utility trailer with his stuff and got 12 all along i told him to get an idi. besides those tundra seats are more like car seats and get uncomfortable on long drives.

just goes to show any truck or car can develop problems, i would prefer to have one i can fix myself that does not cost an arm and a leg.

 

[reklund]

ryan-
wait until the Tundra gets wrecked. every single one that has come through my shop barely escapes getting totalled. the one piece frame helps and hurts the truck. helps....a very rigid platform. hurts when the frame gets tweaked, a complete replacement is necessary and very few insurance companies will foot that bill.

Is it that much worse than any other late model truck though?

 

[firehawk]

The new imports are great trucks, as you can see. I had a Titan, and had no complaints about it (bought new put 110k miles on it); it did any job I asked of it, which is all I really need in a truck. I lost it when I divorced my wife at the time as it was also her DD. Got the truck in my sig to replace it. I can go off road since it is a 4x4, haul more in the bed since its bigger, and more people because its a crew cab. The Titan got better milage, was nicer to drive and more comfortable when in the front.

 

[jayro88]

runs good now, but he is real disappointed with his milage, he can barley crack 16 unloaded. he moved to san diego pulling a small utility trailer with his stuff and got 12 all along i told him to get an idi. besides those tundra seats are more like car seats and get uncomfortable on long drives.
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In the 2wd model my dad can get upto 20mpg highway if he drives really nice on flat ground. But that drops to 10mpg when towing the 5'r on flat ground and then 7-9mpg if there are hills.

I get 16-17 mpg in my '88 e250 with a c6. Hoping I can still get atleast 13mpg pulling a TT.

 

[92F350CC]

The new imports are great trucks, as you can see. I had a Titan, and had no complaints about it (bought new put 110k miles on it); it did any job I asked of it, which is all I really need in a truck. I lost it when I divorced my wife at the time as it was also her DD. Got the truck in my sig to replace it. I can go off road since it is a 4x4, haul more in the bed since its bigger, and more people because its a crew cab. The Titan got better milage, was nicer to drive and more comfortable when in the front.

That has more to do with it being a newer truck than a Japanese truck. There is absolutely no argument in favor of the Japanese trucks being better than their American counterparts IMO. Anything the **** can do, we can do better. I had the chance to ride in a brand new F150 Ecoboost, now that was a nice truck.

The current generation Tundra gets worst-in-class MPG.

I can vouch for Toyota seats being uncomfortable(though not much experience with the Tundra). Driving long distances in the Lexus or in my old Sienna would leave me sore and barely able to walk at the end of a trip. I can easily do 12 hours behind the wheel of the 92 F350 with a bench seat and get out feeling great.

 

[towcat]

Is it that much worse than any other late model truck though?

the engineers could have done a better job of a replaceable rear frame module. other makes have it and it keeps their trucks from getting totaled easily. the look on the customer's face is priceless when you tell them the frame is going to be need to be changed out. what you thought was a trailer hitch, is now the frame and it's done.

 

[reklund]

That has more to do with it being a newer truck than a Japanese truck. There is absolutely no argument in favor of the Japanese trucks being better than their American counterparts IMO. Anything the **** can do, we can do better. I had the chance to ride in a brand new F150 Ecoboost, now that was a nice truck.

The current generation Tundra gets worst-in-class MPG.

I can vouch for Toyota seats being uncomfortable(though not much experience with the Tundra). Driving long distances in the Lexus or in my old Sienna would leave me sore and barely able to walk at the end of a trip. I can easily do 12 hours behind the wheel of the 92 F350 with a bench seat and get out feeling great.

No doubt that F150 EcoBoost is a nice truck. I've driven several. But hook a trailer to them and they fall on their face. The fuel economy sucks, they are wound up to keep the turbos spooled, and they run hot.

How do you figure the Tundra gets worst-in-class MPG? Looking at the fueleconomy.gov website, comparing 4WD models with similarly sized gasoline engines (largest offerings from each manufacturer) the Tundra is inline with everyone else, and ABOVE the 6.2L F150. Better check your facts.

Also, you (admittedly) don't have much seat time in a new Tundra. The interior and the seats are much different than your old Lexus or Sienna- I'd challenge you to go spend some time in one and see how it might change your mind.

The beauty of trucks is that there are many different offerings for many different people.

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[reklund]

the engineers could have done a better job of a replaceable rear frame module. other makes have it and it keeps their trucks from getting totaled easily. the look on the customer's face is priceless when you tell them the frame is going to be need to be changed out. what you thought was a trailer hitch, is now the frame and it's done.

Gotcha. The integrated hitch has bit me before too...long story there, but I get your point for sure.

Thanks for the feedback- I didn't realize Toyota was the only one welding in the hitch/xmember like that.

Ryan