I used to play "where are the valve covers"

[Dave7.3]

It is simply the product of the progressing technologies in diesel engines. Quite an engineering masterpiece but we will see how it holds up in real world conditions when the miles start racking up.

I wouldn't mind having one someday myself. All of the bugs might be worked out of it by the time I could actually afford one.

 

[SparkandFire]

I don't see the omnipresent "Powerstroke V8" anywhere on that thing... I think the 6.0's killed that image for people.

I can't imagine dropping 50 grand on a truck and finding out 30 thousand miles later that it's a complete piece of crap. I had a couple friends who caught the PSD bug and bought one of these back in 2005/06 and they are really regretting it now, those years have NO resale value whatsoever.

I like how david85 put it, it does look like the scrap bin under that hood!

 

[Agnem]

All I see is a bad dream. BUT my trusted Ford mechanic who went to school on this thing, is really enamored with it, and said it is "made to be serviceable" and that they thought about the mechanic this time. I'm sure once you get the body off the frame, the thing looks a whole lot easier to work on.

 

[Clydesdale]

It makes me want to go work at Ford, in Sales, so I can drive, taste, feel and sell these beautiful amazing creatures all day..

I rather am a fan.. a huge fan...!

 

[SparkandFire]

Don't get me wrong, I have wanted a single cab 4x4 '99-'02 superduty for a long time, I love those trucks... I just can't get past the computer controlled stuff, and those were the good years for the PSD's.

i almost bought one with a V8 gas engine just because I like the superduty body style.

I thought about eventually getting a hold of a superduty truck and throwing a IDI in it, but out here in california you could never get away with it since they started requiring smog checks on all '98 and newer diesels...

 

[creighta]

my last ride was a 99 psd. The oil pan rusted through, the bottom of the doors rusted off by 2002 and had to be replaced. The rear main went out and had to be replaced at 98k, It also needed valve gover gaskets, but they were $75 per side for the part. Nothing on that truck ever cost less than $100 to fix. The $49k price tag didn't make it worth it to me.

Damn thing pulled well, but i'll take the idi over something computer controlled and emission compliant any day.

now if this turns out to be a 500k mile motor and someone hacks the emissions system I may be game.

 

[88beast]

ya theres a lot put into this motor for is using longer life gaskets and things like that to make it last the urea im not sure if i like it yes very corrosive but again shuts up the hippies now i think the urea needs an over ride based on the location ex sanfran can keep it for the hippies but centerville iowa can take it away
but all in all its built by ford and designed by ford so i expect good things from this motor after ih was ditched and now look its got more inovations and industry firsts than any other light truck diesel

 

[Shaguardriver]

I do not know about the passenger truck but I know the big rigs that have the emissions fluid smell like cat **** when they are running.

I will keep fixing my old Stuff I am still new to my truck but I love it

 

[6.9poweredscout]

ya theres a lot put into this motor for is using longer life gaskets and things like that to make it last the urea im not sure if i like it yes very corrosive but again shuts up the hippies now i think the urea needs an over ride based on the location ex sanfran can keep it for the hippies but centerville iowa can take it away
but all in all its built by ford and designed by ford so i expect good things from this motor after ih was ditched and now look its got more inovations and industry firsts than any other light truck diesel

Well the cali smog junk should stay in cali. Look in the 70s and 80s some vehicles came with a "cali smog package" like the oppisite of a performance package with the addition of an egr valve and smog pump bringing your ride from a whopping 400 horsepower to an incredible 135 horsepower! and about ford making it being a plus?...I doubt it look at the 6.0 when international used it there were no issues, ford said let us touch and tweak this and that, where were the issues? What ford touched. But ya never know it may do well. I can hope international says hey the big three are doing well with what they have, time for us to bring back a one ton and show the boys how men build trucks! a man can dream right?????

-Jon

 

[6.9poweredscout]

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I do not know about the passenger truck but I know the big rigs that have the emissions fluid smell like cat **** when they are running.

I will keep fixing my old Stuff I am still new to my truck but I love it

ah, all the big trucks BUT international, they skated under the hippie gaydar with dual egr valves! No cow **** there! Id rather clean an egr valve every so often than have to rebuild my engine from holes corroding in them!

-Jon

 

[FordGuy100]

I wouldn't worry about the urea to be honest. Just refill every oil change. If not the LCD display will yell you your urea level.

 

[FordGuy100]

Oh and they sound amazing straight piped! Turbo sounds like a medium duty truck straight piped when they let off from WOT. And that idle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_DLAFMD7wI

 

[FordGuy100]

Also Urea is injected into the exhaust, not the engine. If anything you might have to replace your exhaust? From what I was hearing the increase in fuel milage is due to Urea being able to clean up emmisions. With the urea they can let the motor run a little "dirtier" and clean it up with Urea, and we all know dirty motors run better

 

[snicklas]

I like the new body style... not as well as some of the others, but it is much better than the 08-10 SuperDuty. I would love to have one.... I have read they are a pulling monster. It is does look crowded under the hood, but not much worse that the 6.0 and 6.4. I also read they have made them more service friendly, where the cab does not need to be removed unless it is a major service issue. It does appear to be an engineering masterpiece and I like the innovations, such as the reverse flow and the compound, single unit VGT turbo.... I hope this does help to propel diesel engines forward, and hopefully, we can get diesels in cars in the US.... which I think they really missed the boat on the hybrids, it should have been a small diesel rather than a gas engine if they really wanted mileage...... but that is another story..... maybe one of these days the 6.0 can have a 6.7 playmate..... I just need to wait till the $$$$ comes down.......

 

[david85]

After seeing where things are going, I would sooner build from the ground up if my truck ever dies on me. Either build on something original and rust free from arizona or southern california, or if I ever get around to building some CNC cut foam molds, I'm building on a SS frame with high impact composite body on a tube structure for box and cab.

Build it once, build it right, build for life.

Ford still isn't even rust proofing the underside of their trucks even after all these years, so that new SD will still rust out just as fast as anything that came before it. Wonder how fast it will rust out if the urea injection springs a leak.