ZF swap help. trans floor pan

[NO_SPRK]

hello all and thanks again for looking. i just bought a 87 f150 300ci t19 truck for parts...

will this style trans pan fit the zf5? from my searching the t19 usually has a rear shift t-case.
if so this would be great! id have almost everything for the swap. found a zf5 locally

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[itsacrazyasian]

yup!

 

[NO_SPRK]

score!!!

 

[riotwarrior]

Havin done this swap....NOPE...

Not directly....would require quite a bit of mods...

ZF is taller and shifter comes out back further on tunnel...requires a different cover all together....

Al

 

[NO_SPRK]

aarrggg OK.. ill hold out for a zf5 tunnel

 

[The Warden]

Havin done this swap....NOPE...

Not directly....would require quite a bit of mods...

ZF is taller and shifter comes out back further on tunnel...requires a different cover all together....

Al

Al is absolutely correct regarding the floor pan inserts on '83-'86 trucks...however, that's an '87 truck, and it looks like that's a ZF5 floor pan insert even though there's a T-19 installed in that truck.

Here are a few pics showing the ZF5 insert and comparing the ZF5 insert to the '83-'86 T-19 insert...note that, since I have a 1345 transfer case, I cut a hole in the ZF insert for the transfer case shift lever.

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Comparing the two inserts side-by-side...at least on mine, the gearshift hole's close enough that I could have put the ZF insert over my old T-19 and not had any trouble.

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This pic shows the T-19 insert sitting on a ZF5; note how it's hitting the back of the transmission and still has about 3/4 of an inch before making contact with the floor pan itself...

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[NO_SPRK]

great! i actually looked at those pics.. made me think i have a zf5 tunnel. ill pull it and take some pics/measurements. thanks!

Al is absolutely correct regarding the floor pan inserts on '83-'86 trucks...however, that's an '87 truck, and it looks like that's a ZF5 floor pan insert even though there's a T-19 installed in that truck.

Here are a few pics showing the ZF5 insert and comparing the ZF5 insert to the '83-'86 T-19 insert...note that, since I have a 1345 transfer case, I cut a hole in the ZF insert for the transfer case shift lever.

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Comparing the two inserts side-by-side...at least on mine, the gearshift hole's close enough that I could have put the ZF insert over my old T-19 and not had any trouble.

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This pic shows the T-19 insert sitting on a ZF5; note how it's hitting the back of the transmission and still has about 3/4 of an inch before making contact with the floor pan itself...

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[hesutton]

Pull the mat off the tunnel and see if it is a tall ZF5 compatable tunnel or the low profile tunnel that won't work.

Just looking at your picture, it appears to me you have the tall version that certainly can be used with the ZF5.

Heath

 

[riotwarrior]

Normally there is trouble swapping...but based on your and wardens pics...ya go for it

You will need a different slave cyl though IIRC...fyi!

 

[The Warden]

You will need a different slave cyl though IIRC...fyi!

FWIW I didn't have to replace my clutch slave cylinder when I did my swap; for that matter, I didn't even have to open up the clutch hydraulic system.. Granted, I used an S5-42...I think you would have to replace the slave cylinder if you swap to an S5-47.

 

[hesutton]

Like Tim (who showed me what to do) I've also modified a donor transmission floor pan to work with the ZF5 and '86 T-case shifter.

'91 pan on left and '86 pan on the right. Had to use the ZF5 pan as the '86 pan would hit the top of the tranny:

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The tools used to modify the tranny pan:

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Heath

 

[itsacrazyasian]

That pan that is installed on the truck in the first picture will work. I have one in my truck when i converted it to the zf5.

 

[Rxracer]

I used a pan out of a early 90s 2wd and just cut a hole in it. lol
Rob

 

[Darrin Tosh]

I may have one of those pans, Ill check the shop tomorrow and let you know,..