Yesterday: B20... Today: DieselHPR ??

[idi_econoline]

Yup, drove by the station where I used to get B20 (when my van ran... a while ago), and today they're promoting a new product they now sell instead: DieselHPR.

Since van won't be running until I get a Baby Moose from Mel , I have no interest in this, but anyone else heard of this animal-based diesel-like product???

BTW: http://www.dieselhpr.com/

 

[Hydro-idi]

Yes I saw your text you sent me earlier today. Just got around to looking into it. I am not too sure about this product nor have I heard any previous information about it. I can tell you one thing, dieselHPR doesn't really mention lubricity benefits like B20 makers do

 

[madpogue]

Reminds me of a business idea I had - a chain of quick weight loss clinics, combined with fuel refinement. I was going to call the product "lipo-diesel"......

So now Blackstone is going to have to add cholesterol level to its UOA options? :

 

[IDIoit]

what was the price?

 

[Hans13]

I just called their number because I'm also curious about the lubricity of their fuel. They apparently close at five. They told me if it was a life threatening emergency to call 911... I'll have to remember that one

On a side note, I curious if their higher power fuel will mean my IDI will be pushing 1000hp? I'll have to ask them that too...

 

[idi_econoline]

what was the price?

Well, Brian, B20 was $2.89.9 . After some issues with the signage, apparently DieselHPR is $3.89.9!

 

[bbjordan]

Marketing

Sounds like a lot of hype to me. They say on their website "Diesel HPR does not contain biodiesel.", but yet they say "Diesel HPR comes from recycled tallow and oils, a byproduct of chicken, beef and fish production." Hmmm, maybe they should look up tallow on Wikipedia. Specifically the Production of biodiesel section

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallow#Production_of_biodiesel

Looks surprisingly like uhm...biodiesel. It may be made from animals not plants, but it's still from life (bio).

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

 

[BDCarrillo]

New, exciting, renamed biodiesel with a flashy logo! Alright, let's drive up prices on animal products! That worked well for E85, right?


I bet the CARB was their valentine.


Bleh

 

[Clb]

New, exciting, renamed biodiesel with a flashy logo! Alright, let's drive up prices on animal products! That worked well for E85, right?


I bet the CARB was their valentine.

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Still my fav. Govt. entity

 

[Hans13]

Just got off the phone with an employee and here's what I found.

Q: How is DieselHPR not contain biodiesel when it is biodiesel itself?
A: (Long winded answer about how it is made from animal fats...)

Q: How is this fuel lubricity-wise?
A: DieselHPR has an added lubricant that performs about the same as B20.

Q: How much of a power increase are we realistically talking?
A: You will be able to tell a difference of torque at the rear wheels. The cetane level of the Diesel HPR is 72. B20 was at 53 and low sulfur was somewhere around 40.

That is all I got. I wish I could put what I heard into more detail but I have significant memory loss

 

[madpogue]

Um, why not just let the market drive what happens to this stuff? Maybe if those cetane numbers are right, it's worth it. It'll just have to prove itself, like any other product; people will have to find out if it provides sufficiently more power, and/or more MPGs, to warrant the price difference.

They should probably re-state that biodiesel statement to say that it does not contain PLANT-based biodiesel.

And as for resources, it sounds like it's using by-products of the various industries, unlike, say, ethanol which is usually derived from kernel corn itself which could be used for food/feed. So let's hope it doesn't screw with prices of the "parent" products.

Website is, er, light on information to say the least. What about stability wrt. temperature? Interesting that all their stations are in California; will this stuff even flow up here in Tundraland?

 

[mblaney]

They should probably re-state that biodiesel statement to say that it does not contain PLANT-based biodiesel.

Hmm, no plant matter. Maybe this is PETA-POWERED. Made from PETA activists?

 

[Clb]

Hmm, no plant matter. Maybe this is PETA-POWERED. Made from PETA activists?

Now thats worth a buck a gallon!boy what an impressive website'
Closest one is an hour away from me.

 

[Hans13]

I didn't even think about the gelling... I might be making another phone call.

 

[idi_econoline]

Well, Brian, B20 was $2.89.9 . After some issues with the signage, apparently DieselHPR is $3.89.9!

And, the following day, the legally-required price signage was gone. They had hand-written DieselHPR where "Biodiesel B20" was before, now; it's all a mystery.

But, they do have a cool vertical banner sign saying DieselHPR.