Still hard starting, WHY!!

[sootman73]

nice sig btw

 

[G.W BUFFALO]

Well today i cold started it, 30 degree's outside. Anyway it cranked for 5 scounds, stopped to cool the starter and then cranked another 4-5 before it kicked over. I matted the throttle to the floor before cranking it thou, could that have caused the hard start or am i still at square one.. The only differances between todays start and thursday's is it was 10-15 degree's warmer and i did'nt hit the throttle last time untill i was already cranking it. last time it started in about 4-5 seconds..

 

[sootman73]

You can hold the starter on for longer than 5 seconds. That starter wont barely be warm after 5 seconds

But with new plugs, controller, fuel system and now a starter I would be thinking compression sorry to tell ya....

 

[G.W BUFFALO]

That dont sound good at all, thing runs so good thou. I geuss the only way to know for sure is a compression test. I'll have to try to get a tester.... Anyone think maybe there's something wrong with the ip causing the hard start's.. Ill try starting it in the morning without touching the pedal, i know from before i put the starter on i could caox a better start out of it by feathering the pedal after i started cranking...

 

[G.W BUFFALO]

Well i'm still wondering if my gp's are working 100%, posted a new thread about that.. Also wondering about the timing, i set it by ear. Runs realy good, especaily after it's been running 30-45 secounds where it realy levels out.. Could the timing be to far advanced maybe, or will timing not effewct starting at all.. I know it was posted earlier that is doesnt play a huge factor in starting...

Also wondering where can i get a decant cheap compression tester that works on these idi's.
Thanks for all the help guy's.

 

[G.W BUFFALO]

Well good news i think, i just started it about 20 minutes ago. It's about 30 degree's outside, i hit the gp's 3 times while my uncle was listening and feeling the tops of the gp's "he's old school" but after getting 3 hits of the gp's it started up great only cranked for 4-5 seconds and kicked on the first try.. We are thinking the gp's are not getting enough power causeing them to not heat up all the way..

 

[typ4]

Check the harness connector at pass fender. Those 2 big wires should not have a slip connection in them. Solves 80% of the calls I get in the winter.

 

[G.W BUFFALO]

Ok well yesterday i replaced the gp relay and i am now getting the clicking niose i was looking for.. Sarted pretty good, has'nt started in 3 days and it cranked 3-4 secounds before kicking over and i did'nt touch the throttle at all.. But it was 45 degree's ouside, so thats still not an ideal start, i'm starting to think i mite have air intrusion yet becouse when it kicks over after sitting a good 24hrs plus, it will puff a ploom of white smoke at first before clearing up.

Here's my question for today, could an air leak in the return line system cause a hard start or am i just looking for air leak's in the feed system. Also how is the best way to check for an air leak??