alienturtle
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haha jedi squirrels..thats funny
haha jedi squirrels..thats funny
93turbo animal, when you put your idi on the dyno what did you hit powerwise? Also with the fact that the boost and egts weren't as high as normal proves the dynos don't load our trucks enough to get an accurate reading most of the time. So, some truck might be making a lil bit more power than they think they are imo.
im not gonna say one pump is better than the other, but you have NO proof that your dps pump and injectors are any better than or have out perfored the moose pump and injectors.
just so you know, you come off as really cocky. you aren't above anyone else in this forum. members like icanfixall and agnem have forgotten more about these trucks than you will ever know about them. we're impressed with your build but you need to calm down.
Really?,.,..THIS is the reason,...?
Come on Suck it up and take it like a man,..95% of the post in this thread has been positive towards your results, One guy shows up and gives you an argument and you get all pissy about it,..?
Heath brings up some good points, some of wich, many here have bee wondering about, but didnt have the balls to post em,,..now someone does and all you want to do is take your ball and go home,.
Grow up,... its going to be ok...
Simply put, many many of us have similar fuel systems.
The only thing different with your setup is the Turbo.
Your setup makes WAY more power than anything we've seen here.
Naturally, who wouldn't be skeptical and want to ask alot of questions?
When this becomes a board where people just agree with whatever is said, and they stop questioning everything, I would no longer want to be a member here.
Every line of work involves peer review. If you cannot stand up to peer review, well.... I dunno what to say.
Best of luck,
Drew
WOH! Take a breath and read what I posted. I'm not sure why you think this is a contest of some sort. My post was simply pointing out that a graph of power vs. time is going to be different than power vs. RPM. That's why there is a different "curve" between your graph and others posted (not just mine). Tuning has nothing to do with what Ken does the IP and injectors. Why would my (or Joe's) curve be so different with the same DPS fuel than yours. The data collected and graphed is different, that's why. Thus comparing the two is fruitless as you have no idea what your power is doing during changes in RPM. And, until you test pump to pump and injector to injector and on the same truck.... you CANNOT say, one is better than the other.... APPLES AND ORANGES!
You are so lost in your argument of the dyno readings that I'm surprised you were able to find your way to this thread and post on the subject. I am going to put this as simple as possible, because you obviously don't get it. The dyno sheet shows the elapsed time of the pull which was from 40mph to 72mph. It just so happens that I am intelligent enough to of watched, and made a mental note as to what my starting RPM was, and my ending RPM, hence I know what RPM my motor was throughout the entire curve, it does not "change the curve". Your theory you have fabricated as to why the powercurves are different, is once again, wrong. You should probably read this - http://www.quickstreettrucks.com/showthread.php?1514-Mustang-Dyno-vs-Dyno-Jet
I never intended to build "the most powerful IDI" on OB. I never cared if it was dynoing more that anyone else. I dyno'ed to see what difference there was between the DPS stuff I had vs. the Moose stuff I have now. Tuning? Really? I just put on a Banks turbo anyone can buy, and tried different IP's (timed via a meter) and Injectors.
My point exactly, you did no tuning, which is probably why you made such little power.
You're sick of "DSP vs Moose"????? Really? Then why make such a statement that "DPS cleary outperformed Moose"????? You're inviting that very argument! In fact a good majority of YOUR posts are arguing that point.
You know what, why pretend, I am not tired of the debate, I actually love it.
THIS IS NOT A CONTEST!
To me it is, I enjoy doing things people say cannot be done. Big part of the reason I joined the army, I like a challenge, and I hate to lose.
RELAX!
believe it or not, I am perfectly relaxed, just annoyed.
Heath
Ha! You're sick of the DPS VS. MOOSE debate but yet you're the one doing the instigating here. Grow up, if your attitude is what comes with a powerful combination of parts on these old chuggers then I don't want it.
your truck does count dude, it is impressive and we all said so. however, we dont think it shows a dps pump being any more of a performer than a moose pump. and its not to say you can build/tune better than anyone else here.. you've just put more time and money into your performance than anyone else here. not to discredit your work, but there have been dozens of threads of people with the same basic engine plans, you're just the first to follow through.
I would be willing to bet that 90% of you have more money into your motors than I have into mine. I think I tallyed up right around $1500 on my current motor
just so you know, you come off as really cocky.
I can see that, but its more of a confidence thing, sorry that it has been mistaken
you aren't above anyone else in this forum.
On the level of being a human being... you're right, I'm not. As a mechanic and builder... I disagree
members like icanfixall and agnem have forgotten more about these trucks than you will ever know about them.
Good luck with that, just a blind statement as you have no clue my background with these trucks... I'll give you a hint, you're way out in left field.
we're impressed with your build but you need to calm down.
besides the dyno slip....nope.your right.true comment.
in their stock form..true.
however.......new blood with more modern view's can be just as beneficial.
don't be quick to give the new guy a hard time.......when it comes to the indirectly injected diesel; it's clear we need help in the hp department to gain newer interested ones.those with loads of $!!!!!.we need those type to think IDI or we'll continue to become a dying breed,with no aftermarket advancement.
we could stay on the same old trusty path sure.we know where that's leading don't we?it's not in the direction of up,lets face it.
perhaps he'd calm down if a more open minded approach was taken.
yeah, id say so. not sure why you didnt come clean with that info to begin with. You have that T04z in your sig like its already in.
I didn't mean to come off as a jerk btw, I just say it as I see it.
My attitude is fueled completely by the ignorance of a small percentage of people on this board. For some reason people think that I have all sorts of money into my rig, and I have super secret parts and even have the nerve to call me out with fabricated theories and lies.
besides the dyno slip....nope.your right.true comment.
if you will look at the differences in mods to the trucks he is comparing them too then no he has no proof. he needs a moose pump and injectors before he can say the dps products out performed them.