Here is some wonderfful news from Ats!

[rjjp]

If you have the o88 non wastegated system, then the factory gromet will fit ( as will the oring that seals the pedestal against the manifold where the CDR used to mount ), so the one that comes in every gasket set will work, so you won't have a problem. but the guys who have the newer wastegated system are screwed.

My 093 (sorta) is using the factory grommet with out any problems. BUT that may be because it was a factory turbo, I haven't messed with a true 093 so I'm not sure if it's different.

By the way; Russ, keep up the good work, you do a lot for all of us and we are all thankful.

 

[6 Nebraska IDIs]

Ok, here's my cheap fix proposal. As much of the packrat I am when it comes to these IDIs and how much I always want to be prepared for the worst. I somehow used all the ATS Ford Factory and ATS 093 VP grommets that I had on the shelf.
What I did was used the NA IDI VP grommet and inserted a generic Mr Gasket valve cover breather grommet inside the NA IDI VP grommet. It slides in tight, and snaps into place when its fully seated. The look after they are placed together is much like the ATS grommet and it fits perfectly over the 093 drain as well as into the VP.
I have not used it on a running engine, but I dont see any reason for why it would leak. If a person wanted, you could use some Aircraft gasket maker inside the VP grommet and on the outside of the breather grommet to glue them together. I'd think it would work without a hitch even without gluing them together because of how perfectly they fit with eachother.
Here's a few pics of the ATS grommet compared to the one I made with the two pieces I mentioned.

ATS 093 Grommet

NA IDI Grommet w/ Mr. Gasket Valve Cover Grommet Inserted

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NA IDI Grommet w/ Mr. Gasket Valve Cover Grommet Inserted (Mocked up in 7.3 IDIT)

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As you can see, the fit is perfect and tight, some vaseline might be required to ease the fit of the drain tube.
The best thing about this solution is that both pieces are (or should be) readily available from any decent auto parts store.
If anyone thinks this is a good solution and wants me to post detailed pics of both parts separated and how they fit together I can, its pretty self explanatory.

 

[benton]

ATS sucks ill deal through hypermax any day!!!

 

[The Warden]

As you can see, the fit is perfect and tight, some vaseline might be required to ease the fit of the drain tube.
The best thing about this solution is that both pieces are (or should be) readily available from any decent auto parts store.
If anyone thinks this is a good solution and wants me to post detailed pics of both parts separated and how they fit together I can, its pretty self explanatory.

I'd like to see it on a running engine to see if any leaks develop, but it looks like a good solution offhand to me! I'm curious to see what Russ or Gary have to say about it...thank you for the R&D

 

[typ4]

looks awesome to me, I would glue it together with some pink subaru seal, stuff is so good I can build a leak free VW engine.

 

[The Warden]

stuff is so good I can build a leak free VW engine.

Such a thing is possible?!? Now for the $1 million question...is the stuff good enough to build a leak-free 2-stroke Detroit?

Also, where do you get this stuff?

 

[6 Nebraska IDIs]

looks awesome to me, I would glue it together with some pink subaru seal, stuff is so good I can build a leak free VW engine.

Thanks Russ! But theres one problem with your statement there, "leak free" and "VW engine" don't belong in the same sentence.

 

[typ4]

Such a thing is possible?!? Now for the $1 million question...is the stuff good enough to build a leak-free 2-stroke Detroit?

Also, where do you get this stuff?

I have actually built 2 8v71's that were dry for over a year, till some ******* ethered them , while hot, cause they wouldnt start due to dead batteries.
Subaru dealer AFIK.
Hondabond is good also. Ultra gray might do the trick.

 

[The Warden]

I have actually built 2 8v71's that were dry for over a year

I'm impressed!! I wish I had known about this stuff when I did my top end rebuild in '04...for that matter, I wish your cam had been around then

Thank you

 

[Brimmstone]

Part numbers please on what you made 6Nebraska

 

[Brimmstone]

Never mind on part numbers. Mr. Gasket part number is 5425. I cut the bottom of it off and glued it to the factory grommet with right stuff silicone sealer and it looks like it will work perfect.

 

[6 Nebraska IDIs]

I didn't even cut the bottom off, it just popped into place after rolling it into the other grommet. I believe thats the right part number too.

 

[Agnem]

Well, when I first shopped turbo's and had the choice of the 3 builders, I picked Hypermax cause I just liked everything I saw. I seems I chose wisley. I just bought an Intercooler kit (yes, the damn expensive one) and it was in-stock, and at my door in 3 days. They had me in the computer, and I mentioned Oil Burners and saved $67 with the club discount. With Hypermax the only game in town, I hope to God they hold the torch for us. They can't write documentation to save their souls, but the quality of the company, products, and phone support compensates easily.

 

[typ4]

And turbo parts are easy for me to get.

 

[jonathan]

Well, when I first shopped turbo's and had the choice of the 3 builders, I picked Hypermax cause I just liked everything I saw. I seems I chose wisley. I just bought an Intercooler kit (yes, the damn expensive one) and it was in-stock, and at my door in 3 days. They had me in the computer, and I mentioned Oil Burners and saved $67 with the club discount. With Hypermax the only game in town, I hope to God they hold the torch for us. They can't write documentation to save their souls, but the quality of the company, products, and phone support compensates easily.

thats cool about ob discount. thank you for sharing that with us mel