Well, as many of you may have heard, I announced a new product that Conestoga Diesel Injection is offering to the IDI community. We call it "Moose Boost". As with the Moose product family, there will likely be a few choices in this product line, but the top of the line one is what we are starting with.
Above is the proof of concept build that we put together for the 2013 IDI Weekend in Greenfield Indiana, and carted out there in the Moose Tail. It features several significant improvements over other turbochargers that have previously been offered by ATS, Banks, and Hypermax.
This is a Garrett turbocharger featuring oil and water cooling, and dual ball bearings, in the center housing and rotating assembly, with a free floating non-wastegated turbine housing. The compressor shroud is ported to increase resistance to surging. Three exhaust housing A/R's are available. .89, .99, and 1.11. The 88mm compressor wheel has a 52 trim and .72 A/R.
This initial mock up, is based on a Hypermax Pulse Turbo platform, making this turbo an easy upgrade for existing Hypermax turbo users. The T40B mount makes it easy to bolt on. All a Hypermax turbo user needs to do to fit this turbo to an engine, is space the mounting bracket back with 11 washers on longer bolts to provide clearance with the ATS intake hat that would need to be used in place of the Hypermax intake hat. A modification to the Hypermax downpipe is also required to support the easier to use V-Band connection type.
Lets look at some comparisons....
The exhaust housing is only slightly larger than the stock Hypermax turbo.
The compressor housing is where the real difference becomes apparent. The compressor section of this turbo is larger to flow more air. This is needed to develop the full potential of our Bull Moose product. This turbocharger will support up to 350 crank horsepower. Because it is a ball bearing turbo, it will spool earlier, easier, and because of the sizing, the turbo will stay in the 76% island of efficiency throughout the RPM range.
Naturally, your going to ask if the math has been proven. Sadly, the answer is no at this time. In all honesty, I can't afford to own one of these. My margin on these is not very good, because I have priced this turbo under $1500. A price point that I think can be afforded by the IDI community. One of the challenges in bringing a new turbo to market for you, was to find one that could be sold at a price you would pay. A turbo of this quality and performance level should really be in the $1800-$1900 range, but I know I would not sell many of them. Like our other Moose products, we want this to be something that lots of people can afford and use on their trucks. Consequently, I could not use it and resell it as a used turbo and recoup my costs. I'm still struggling to get my new business up to a profitable level that affords some convenience of luxury in owning the things we carry. Fortunately, as you saw from the rally thread, Heath Sutton stepped up to the plate and put his trust in me and bought this unit in its unproven state. He is going to try it on a Banks setup, which means a T3 mount adapter will be needed. This turbo does have a divided housing, so I'm not sure what impact that may have, but I'm hoping the performance difference is negligible. History has shown a willingness by the community to try new and different turbochargers. Many with varying degrees of success. To my knowledge, NO ONE has tried a ball bearing turbo, and no one has included water cooling to afford them the freedom to not have to worry about hot shut downs. The reason for this is simple. This is a TOP OF THE LINE turbo. It is better than a Holset. It is better than a Powerstroke turbo. It is better than what is offered in the kits.
For people looking to add a turbo who do not have one, I will be putting together a package price that includes the Hypermax and ATS components that will be needed to provide a bolt on solution.
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Above is the proof of concept build that we put together for the 2013 IDI Weekend in Greenfield Indiana, and carted out there in the Moose Tail. It features several significant improvements over other turbochargers that have previously been offered by ATS, Banks, and Hypermax.
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This is a Garrett turbocharger featuring oil and water cooling, and dual ball bearings, in the center housing and rotating assembly, with a free floating non-wastegated turbine housing. The compressor shroud is ported to increase resistance to surging. Three exhaust housing A/R's are available. .89, .99, and 1.11. The 88mm compressor wheel has a 52 trim and .72 A/R.
This initial mock up, is based on a Hypermax Pulse Turbo platform, making this turbo an easy upgrade for existing Hypermax turbo users. The T40B mount makes it easy to bolt on. All a Hypermax turbo user needs to do to fit this turbo to an engine, is space the mounting bracket back with 11 washers on longer bolts to provide clearance with the ATS intake hat that would need to be used in place of the Hypermax intake hat. A modification to the Hypermax downpipe is also required to support the easier to use V-Band connection type.
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Lets look at some comparisons....
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The exhaust housing is only slightly larger than the stock Hypermax turbo.
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The compressor housing is where the real difference becomes apparent. The compressor section of this turbo is larger to flow more air. This is needed to develop the full potential of our Bull Moose product. This turbocharger will support up to 350 crank horsepower. Because it is a ball bearing turbo, it will spool earlier, easier, and because of the sizing, the turbo will stay in the 76% island of efficiency throughout the RPM range.
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Naturally, your going to ask if the math has been proven. Sadly, the answer is no at this time. In all honesty, I can't afford to own one of these. My margin on these is not very good, because I have priced this turbo under $1500. A price point that I think can be afforded by the IDI community. One of the challenges in bringing a new turbo to market for you, was to find one that could be sold at a price you would pay. A turbo of this quality and performance level should really be in the $1800-$1900 range, but I know I would not sell many of them. Like our other Moose products, we want this to be something that lots of people can afford and use on their trucks. Consequently, I could not use it and resell it as a used turbo and recoup my costs. I'm still struggling to get my new business up to a profitable level that affords some convenience of luxury in owning the things we carry. Fortunately, as you saw from the rally thread, Heath Sutton stepped up to the plate and put his trust in me and bought this unit in its unproven state. He is going to try it on a Banks setup, which means a T3 mount adapter will be needed. This turbo does have a divided housing, so I'm not sure what impact that may have, but I'm hoping the performance difference is negligible. History has shown a willingness by the community to try new and different turbochargers. Many with varying degrees of success. To my knowledge, NO ONE has tried a ball bearing turbo, and no one has included water cooling to afford them the freedom to not have to worry about hot shut downs. The reason for this is simple. This is a TOP OF THE LINE turbo. It is better than a Holset. It is better than a Powerstroke turbo. It is better than what is offered in the kits.
For people looking to add a turbo who do not have one, I will be putting together a package price that includes the Hypermax and ATS components that will be needed to provide a bolt on solution.