Thinking of making a reusable oil filter from stainless steel sanitary pipe, fishing for your thoughts.

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I've been juggling the idea of making a reusable oil filter from as many readily available parts as possible for a while now, stainless steel sanitary pipe seems like the best option.

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Obviously the core is the most important part, stainless steel wire mesh is easy to source, which leads to the particle size discussion.
Regular oil filters are around 40 microns, WIX filters are between 20-25 microns and the FL1995 is about 17-19 microns iirc...

500 mesh equals 25 micron --> Low cost, way better than average filters, sold in cut sheets or rolls. 100$ per linear foot x 48".
635 mesh equals 20 microns --> A bit harder to get, it's a different weave than regular mesh & more costly. Sold by the roll, crazy expensive in cut sheets. 250$ per linear foot x 40".

Which begs the question: Is a 5 micron particle size difference worth the expense? It is reusable after all...

I'd simply make a quick punch & die to use on a shop press to make the top & bottom discs from 18ga stainless, fill them with windshield urethane adhesive & pop them onto a nice little stainless mesh accordion.

As for the casing design, not much is required, the only obstacle is the fabrication of the business end that meets the engine block. A very cheap solution is simply cutting it off an existing filter and welding it to a sanitary flange (sad fabricator face :(). Or turning one on a lathe & welding it on. I can get 4.25" diameter pipe which is on par with disposable filters.

- Top part is a 1.5" long flange with a smaller one inside of the assembly to seal on the inner core.
- Middle is a 6" or 8" long double flange tube.
- Bottom is a simple cap with a drain hole & a spring.

Cost in parts: less than 75$

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These pipes seal together with cheap rubber or teflon gaskets (other options available) & a clamp with 2 bolts or a butterfly nut.

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Would there be any interest in a product like this if I could supply the business end that screws on to the engine? The rest could be sold as a kit or people could source their own parts and customise it.

Ports for oil temp & pressure sensors?

Like I said, just looking for feedback on the basic idea really, not sure if I should bother with this as a new money pit project LOL
 

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How would you seal where the end of the screen meets the filter housing?
 

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How would you seal where the end of the screen meets the filter housing?
I'd press form the inner core caps so that they have a lip & fill the space with urethane adhesive. Let's say 1/4" of the end of the mesh would be covered.
 

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Would it be reusable at that point or are you going to have to install new caps each time? Would seem to me you are headed towards a cartridge style filter.

If you have to replace end caps and filter element each time what are you gaining? If you are suggesting trying to wash out the element and reusing how do you know it is clean?

Seems like alot of extra work and risk over just spinning on a new filter.
 

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I love the idea, but I think most will defer to the convenience of spinning the old one off and spinning a new one on. Many superior products stopped being made/used because of convenience. I am not sure how I would choose......
 

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Would it be reusable at that point or are you going to have to install new caps each time? Would seem to me you are headed towards a cartridge style filter.

If you have to replace end caps and filter element each time what are you gaining? If you are suggesting trying to wash out the element and reusing how do you know it is clean?

Seems like alot of extra work and risk over just spinning on a new filter.
The only thing that would need replacing are o-rings when they flatten after a few uses.

Reusable filters are old tech, tried & tested. The downside for manufacturers is that there's much less profit to be made, hence why they're not common anymore. I still see some on old farm equipment.

If you can see through it, it's clean.

Besides, what does it matter if a few particles stay on the screen? They're stuck on the dirty side of the filter...
 

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I love the idea, but I think most will defer to the convenience of spinning the old one off and spinning a new one on. Many superior products stopped being made/used because of convenience. I am not sure how I would choose......
Yes, people are getting more lazy by the day, most are even allergic to a grease gun! Although it does safeguard my job

My truck will become a daily driver when I'm done fixing it up so I'm aiming to save on consumables in the long run.
 

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I've been told a story that may or may not be true. The guy who told it to me is dead now. He said that, back in the early 60's, someone came up with a reusable oil filter and Purolater bought it from him. Then it disappeared.
 

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I've been told a story that may or may not be true. The guy who told it to me is dead now. He said that, back in the early 60's, someone came up with a reusable oil filter and Purolater bought it from him. Then it disappeared.
I wouldn't doubt that a company would try to buy out a competitor but there are plenty on the market actually, although most are aimed at stationary machinery, not average joe vehicles. These guys make some decent ones:


At that price for a high volume filter I'll keep looking into making my own, it's starting to look like a fun machining & tig welding project. They do sell their biggest core (3.5" x 7.5") for 117$ which is decent looking, might skip that step considering the labour involved.
 
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I've been told a story that may or may not be true. The guy who told it to me is dead now. He said that, back in the early 60's, someone came up with a reusable oil filter and Purolater bought it from him. Then it disappeared.
I remember hearing a story about a guy that developed a carb that would get 70mpg. They bought him out and it all disappeared. don't know if its true or not
 

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I remember hearing a story about a guy that developed a carb that would get 70mpg. They bought him out and it all disappeared. don't know if its true or not
I've heard the same. The same guy swore that he knew a guy who bought a brand new '51 Chevy truck that got over 50 MPG. He got a letter from GM that told him to bring it back in for warranty work. Suddenly he was only getting in the low teens for MPG. I've heard a different story from somebody different where a new car (Nissan) was getting 70+ MPG and they bought the car back plus gave him a new Nissan car every other year for life. I DO remember seeing a show on TV when I was young that claimed that Volvo came up with a Diesel powered car in the late 70's that would get 70+ MPG city and 100+ MPG highway. Obviously that never made it into production. Again, I have no idea if those stories are true.
 

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I think you have to look at the amount of energy in a given amount of fuel and then look at the losses in the drive train and wind resistance. There is no free lunch. Alternators, power steering pumps, air conditioning, all take their toll on fuel used. There is no carburetor that will magically break the math.
 

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I was going to do a similar project years ago but never finished it. I collected a few engine oil filters from aircraft PT6- turbine engines, that were made of stainless steel and had a 5 micron mesh. They were about 2" diameter by 6" long, in perfect condition, only replaced because the manufacturer said they had a limited life. They had o-rings on both ends but fit into the engine itself.

similar to this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1269482029...4WhS2JeY36Wc0ZDxq/IGgB5ws=|tkp:Bk9SR_qMxbmlZQ
 

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