Super Duty Axles

[bike-maker]

The other day I was passing through Drain, Oregon and ran across a 92-94 F350 IDI that appeared to have Super Duty axles under it. Got me thinkin..................
What would the pros/ cons of running these axles and has anyone here done it. The benefit that I see would be the disc brakes on the rear end, the con being the unit bearing, or whatever all in one wheel bearing setup on the front axle. The truck I ran across in particular had some major surgery done to it; it was sitting on some 49" tires.

 

[88beast]

you want the discs pull a 10.25 off a post 98 van with the same bolt pattern i think up to 02 works itll bolt up and be disc

 

[LCAM-01XA]

Unless you have a dually, in which case things get a whole lot more interesting.

 

[Silver Burner]

Seems like an awful lot of work. Might be fun though..

 

[bike-maker]

I eventually want to put a Dana 60 under the front of my truck. I've seen the super duty axles typically go for cheaper than the older 85.5-97 Dana 60's. Super Duty axles also have the option of a 3.73 gear.

Just want to keep my options open

 

[towcat]

If you make the drive south in the next month, I will be killing off a '90SD. the front and rear axles are yours for a case of Coors reg in a bottle I know nothing about the history of them other than the truck I bought to kill.

 

[rjjp]

You talking about the modern super duty, or the old one?

 

[LCAM-01XA]

You guys are talking about different things:
1) the truck bike maker saw with the stupid-large tires on it supposedly has axles off a later SuperDuty F350 or something, the ones with the metric bolt pattern.
2) the truck Calvin is going to put under the knife is an F-SuperDuty, which is a 2wd truck with solid I-beam front axle and 10 lugs per wheel instead of 8.

I wish people would quit calling the new F250s and F350s a "SuperDuty", as it's just a badge name and really tells absolutely nothing about the truck other than that it is not an F150...

 

[rjjp]

You guys are talking about different things:
1) the truck bike maker saw with the stupid-large tires on it supposedly has axles off a later SuperDuty F350 or something, the ones with the metric bolt pattern.
2) the truck Calvin is going to put under the knife is an F-SuperDuty, which is a 2wd truck with solid I-beam front axle and 10 lugs per wheel instead of 8.

I wish people would quit calling the new F250s and F350s a "SuperDuty", as it's just a badge name and really tells absolutely nothing about the truck other than that it is not an F150...

That's what I was asking about, yes I am familiar with the F-Superduty, Dana 80 rear, Rockwell carryall front... I learned to drive a stick on one.

 

[bike-maker]

Yeah, I was refering to a 99-up SuperDuty. The ones with the metric wheel bolt pattern

 

[LCAM-01XA]

Rockwell carryall front...

Is that what that axle is called?

 

[snicklas]

bike-maker,

I have heard of some guys using the 99 and up "SuperDuty" which was a marketing name given to the new bodystyle of F-250,350 trucks. The new bodystyle in 97 on the 150 was the "triton" and the F2,350 in 99 was a SuperDuty. In 97 and 98 there was a "Light Duty F-250" that had the Triton F-150 Body with automotive type axles, IFS and 7 lug hubs. If you look in the riding mower thread you can see my Dads in the 1st picture.

The problem with the 99 and up axles in the older trucks are they are wider, and the spring pearches and shock mounts are in the "wrong place" for them to be "plug and play" The mounts could be moved and make them fit, the member on here with the 60-something truck with the 6.0L in it has narrowed 99 and up axles on them. They could be made to work if you have the fabricaton skills to move the mounts around. If you only changed one axle you would have different bolt patterns, which as someone pointed out the E-Series vans are kind of the "red-headed stepchild" (no offence to anyone) of Ford "Trucks" They have different and older style parts that the same year pickups. The newer ones have the OBS style steering colum in them the SAE bolt patter axles ,but with disk brakes and the like. Even the diesel in the pre 2011 model year is still the 07 spec 6.0, they did not adape the 6.4 to run in the vans... so you will see ambulances with the new grill and hood that are on 08,09 and I think even 10 and they have a 6.0 in them.....

I believe on the 99 and up "SuperDuty's" they went back to a solid front axle on the 4x4's. My Excursion has a Sterling 10.50 in the rear and a Dana 50 Solid Front axle....... My Excursion is "same" as an F-250 chassis....

 

[gatorman21218]

I wish people would quit calling the new F250s and F350s a "SuperDuty", as it's just a badge name and really tells absolutely nothing about the truck other than that it is not an F150...

Its not "people" its ford itself. Its all marketing that they use it for now anyway. An F-Superduty could pull a showroom full of F-250 Triton V8 "superduties"

That ranks third on my Truck Pet Peeve list behind:

1) Toyota trucks (they dont make bigger than a half ton or have diesel)

2 Crew Cab Short beds (see above)

3) Ford calling anything bigger than a crown vic a superduty

 

[LCAM-01XA]

Lol, Gatorman, you forgot the "flareside" term for what to about everyone who don't bleed ford-blue is just a regular stepside bed. This from a discussion on FTE:

they: "It ain't no Chev so it ain't no stepside, it's a flareside!!!"
me: "Does it have steps on the sides? Yes - it's a stepside"
they: "It also has flares, so it's a flareside!"
me: "Well my dually has those same flares, does that make it a flareside too? "

 

[timothyr1014]

and for our next topic lets discuss quad-cab, crew-cab, king-cab, ext-cab and supercabs...in as much as most of the time it really doesn't matter (like the Arch's bed discussion), the one that gets me is a truck with two normal doors up front, and two suicide flippy things behind them is not a 4-door or a crew cab

A little more on topic...will f-superduty axles bolt under an f350 (more or less plug and play style)?, and if so are there any options for going 4x4 with 10-lug wheels?