PSD conversion

[Agnem]

I'd rather see a PSD go in the old body than a Cummins. Someone sucessfully did a Bronco with a PSD. Probably real easy, just a lot of time in the wiring. Better yet, do a DT-466. That's the road less traveled.

 

[92F350CC]

The PSD swap can definitely be done. I think there was somebody on here who actually took a 2000 T444E and put it in an 83-86 truck.

 

[towcat]

a T444E with a engine mounted ECM would be an interesting idea. Upside, there's less wiring to deal with since the motor, wiring and ECM is all prepacked. Downside, I don't think there's any support in the racing crowds for that setup.

 

[Agnem]

Yea I would think that would be the easiest way to go. I know I've seen them setup that way on stationary generators.

 

[tractorman86]

i was talking about about flywheel horse because he hasn't been on a dyno yet.

 

[Cat_Rebel]

if it was me and i had the money i would put it in the idi, im very sure an idi would hold up to 400hp if not more, but i guess im just all about proving thet idi's can make power, and what do you need 400hp for anyway?

I seriously doubt a IDI could hold up to 400hp when they have a hard enough time at 300hp.

I'd rather see a PSD go in the old body than a Cummins. Someone sucessfully did a Bronco with a PSD. Probably real easy, just a lot of time in the wiring. Better yet, do a DT-466. That's the road less traveled.

There are a few of them, one of the more recent ones was David Lott at DI in Houston Texas. Also swapped on a 05 Dana 60 coil spring front too.

i was talking about about flywheel horse because he hasn't been on a dyno yet.

If all he has is a intake, exhaust & a TS chip on a Superduty he will be around the 300hp mark at the rear wheels. He can send the chip off to one of the custom guys like Wildman, Truck Source Diesel, Gear Head, Swamps, DI ext & get it reburned with better tunes for about $100-$150 but there is only so much you can do with stock injectors.

 

[tractorman86]

well it is a true 4" downpipe and 5" from there the ts does alright on the 140 setting, he also has a vacuum T in line with the wastegate to get a little more boost. we had our snap-on scanner on it and while he was driving under very hard exceleration he hit 34psi maxed he was topping out at an average of 30lbs.

 

[hesutton]

are you kidding me?im building about 400HP at the rear wheels with my psd.and it runs 15.07 in the 1/4.

Nope, I'm not Rich. Dude I'm not trying to argue with you but.....I never said you can't get 400HP out of a PSD. What I said is.......it is not a good platform to search for BIG HP. 400HP is not "BIG" in my opinion. You double that and we'll talk.;p I also said ..........it was not designed to make 400HP which it was not.

Heath

 

[Diesel_brad]

I'd rather see a PSD go in the old body than a Cummins. Someone sucessfully did a Bronco with a PSD. Probably real easy, just a lot of time in the wiring. Better yet, do a DT-466. That's the road less traveled.

Friend of mine has a DT466 he would sell me for cheap! but whats the drivability? Lots of torque but not alot of HP. Maybe if i was building a stricktly pullin truck

 

[dyoung14]

Cat_Rebel:I seriously doubt a IDI could hold up to 400hp when they have a hard enough time at 300hp.


ken at dps has a idi that makes more than 400 horsepower and its steetable, but its not to dependible when its cold cause its hard to crank, im almost certain one would hold up to that much power, you can get nearly 300 horsepower with 15psi boost a good pump good injectors free flowin exaust ram air intake, lower compression and more fuel and about 30 psi of boost should take you to about 400 horsepower, and dont say an idi cant hold up to that much boost, cause i know were one is that runs 28 psi of boost every day and it has about 40,000 miles on it now, and its his daily driver, but he only gets about 8-10 mpg 12 on a good day, and it will out run new strokes and cummins that are stock, and its a very dependible motor

 

[hesutton]

Friend of mine has a DT466 he would sell me for cheap! but whats the drivability? Lots of torque but not alot of HP. Maybe if i was building a stricktly pullin truck

Why.....because that is an engine you can get big reliable HP and huge torque out of cheaper than a 5.9 cummins. Particullary NGD ('93-'95) Bosch "P" pumped versions.

How much would he let it go for? If he wants to sell it cheap and you don't want it........pass it on to a fellow OB!

Heath

 

[94f450sd]

Ah. That makes sense. I remember a previous post of yours about idi vs. psd reliability. But it does make sense that you would need the PSD power though.

i havent had too much trouble with my psd either.other than a melted piston wich is my own fault for pushing the EGTS to over 1600 degrees on the track.but the psd costs alot more to fix when it does break.ill own both but prefer the PSD after seeing what they are capable of.even a stock psd will run circles around my turbo idi and use less fuel.id love to do a swap with someone but cant find anybody willing.my IDI is a factory turbo with only 100.000 miles on the complete rebuild,it runs great and is very reliable but not enough power for what i use the truck for.

 

[94f450sd]

Why.....because that is an engine you can get big reliable HP and huge torque out of cheaper than a 5.9 cummins. Particullary NGD ('93-'95) Bosch "P" pumped versions.

How much would he let it go for? If he wants to sell it cheap and you don't want it........pass it on to a fellow OB!

Heath

+1 the dt can be turned up or down.cant kill them,very reliable and can make big power.IIRC they are around 185HP stock and can be turned up to around 300HP maybe more and still be very reliable engines.they arent really that big either,about the same size as the cummapart.

 

[Diesel_brad]

Why.....because that is an engine you can get big reliable HP and huge torque out of cheaper than a 5.9 cummins. Particullary NGD ('93-'95) Bosch "P" pumped versions.

How much would he let it go for? If he wants to sell it cheap and you don't want it........pass it on to a fellow OB!

Heath

I could prob get it for $500. He got it for free out of a bus.He is a farmer and will prob use it in one of his 1066 06 1206 when the time comes. What trans and bell housing would fit it? Only has like 10k on it. What does one of them monsters weigh? Then i would have to dog house the fire wall. A guy i know put a JD 466 in his 86 pulling truck. Pulls good but he dont drive it.

 

[Cat_Rebel]

well it is a true 4" downpipe and 5" from there the ts does alright on the 140 setting, he also has a vacuum T in line with the wastegate to get a little more boost. we had our snap-on scanner on it and while he was driving under very hard exceleration he hit 34psi maxed he was topping out at an average of 30lbs.

You can get on a dyno but I still say he will only be around 300hp.
Another thing is too a TS chip in 140hp is also known as Fuel 7 & consists of a sheet load of fuel & timing. Not good for your motor.

ken at dps has a idi that makes more than 400 horsepower and its steetable, but its not to dependible when its cold cause its hard to crank, im almost certain one would hold up to that much power, you can get nearly 300 horsepower with 15psi boost a good pump good injectors free flowin exaust ram air intake, lower compression and more fuel and about 30 psi of boost should take you to about 400 horsepower, and dont say an idi cant hold up to that much boost, cause i know were one is that runs 28 psi of boost every day and it has about 40,000 miles on it now, and its his daily driver, but he only gets about 8-10 mpg 12 on a good day, and it will out run new strokes and cummins that are stock, and its a very dependible motor

But how much does that cost you to pull the engine & do all that work? If were talking about cutting pistons & doing other machine work how much does that cost? Also if it's getting 12mpg on a good day other then a toy it seems wasted when the other diesels are pushing 500hp+ & getting 15mpg+
The other thing is how many 350hp+ IDIs are out there that are holding up?
Last I heard Ken blew his truck up a few years back, maybe he got it running again?
Aside from that I refuse to ever deal with Ken with the way he runs his business & treats his customers.