Poll: Sleeved and Non-Sleeved IDI Engines

How many miles has your engine lasted before it was either scrapped or rebuilt requiring machining?

  • Non-Sleeved: 0 to 5,000 miles

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  • Non-Sleeved: 5,000 to 10,000 miles

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  • Non-Sleeved: 10,000 to 25,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Non-Sleeved: 25,000 to 50,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Non-Sleeved: 75,000 to 100,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sleeved: 0 to 5,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sleeved: 5,000 to 10,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sleeved: 25,000 to 50,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sleeved: 50,000 to 75,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sleeved: 75,000 to 100,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sleeved: 100,000 + miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Non-Sleeved and Overbored: 5,000 to 10,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Non-Sleeved and Overbored: 10,000 to 25,000 miles

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  • Non-Sleeved and Overbored: 25,000 to 50,000 miles

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  • Non-Sleeved and Overbored: 50,000 to 75,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Non-Sleeved and Overbored: 75,000 to 100,000 miles

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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mexicanjoe

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my '89 has an unknown number of miles, I know that 200 K is the next milestone. I'm the 3rd owner and I'm pretty sure the IP is not stock. It has red paint on the adjustment screws. Other than not being able to get past 160* temperature, she does all I need.
 

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Something else to think about, not all sleeves are created equal. I have heard horror stories of sleeves dropping out of the cylinder and totaling the engine. If an engine needs to be sleeved it should have a lip on top so that it cannot fail by falling down.
 

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I don't think over 500k is out of the question or even surprising for and idi that has been used and maintained correctly and within it's parameters. I have many of them and none are under 300k. I don't expect that any of them are in a state where they need a rebuild anytime soon. However I drive them as they are intended to be driven and I don't try to keep up with the modern boys pulling twice the weight.

As for the sleeved engines? Is there a problem developing after a few hundred K on sleeved engines?
 

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Seems to prove the point so far that we don’t really have much data on sleeved engines. I agree you have to machine a step in them so they don’t drop. Doesn’t seem to be anyone that’s responded to this thread yet running an engine that’s sleeved that can comment on how many miles they have on it.
 

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I think you don't have 'sleeved' data because sleeves aren't obvious, and are as reliable as cast cylinder walls when properly installed.

Eli
 

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My truck has over 500k miles on its original motor, maintenance is key. Change your coolant regularly and your motor will be protected.
 

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My 89 started life N/A, I have put at least 100k on it in 15 years and it's been turbo'd for about 5 years and maybe 20k. I drive it less lately than I used to since we have a family car and a commuter besides my pickup.

So over 200k on this one, no rebuild in sight, thank God!
 

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Both of mine are(were) in IH vehicles. The current engine is a 6.9 jasper rebuild, no idea on sleeves or mileage on rebuild, and the bus has 150k on current odometer. Spare engine had 367,576 on it's odometer, I believe it's oe/vergin(darn censors), but haven't torn it apart to tell yet.

Properly installed sleeves will never drop with or without a lip fwiw. I think certain rebuilders sleeve all 8 as standard procedure because cavitation is a known possible problem with this platform. Sleeving all 8 eliminates that as a possibility on a fresh rebuild. Some value their reputation enough not to chance it, so they sleeve all and are done.
 
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My 92 had 100,000 when I bought it as-is with a cavitated block. I sleeved all 8 cylinders, put all new pistons, rings and bearings in. That was back in early 2004 and I've put about 35,000 miles on it since. Its still going strong.
 

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My current truck has 153k miles on the original IDIT motor that came in it.

My old ‘86 had well over 300k on it, but I have no idea if any work was done to it prior to when I bought it.
 

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I have 126000 on my 6.9 with ATS turbo running strong with no problem, my brother has a 94 7.3 IDIT with 380000 and it’s never been apart
 

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I have a 94 F-350 IDIT with a Promar fully sleeved engine. Done up with hardened head studs. Running it since 2017. Maybe 20,000 miles with no issues at all so far.
Something I forgot to mention: Before I purchased my rebuilt engine from Promar, the person I spoke with told me that they sleeved all of their IDI diesel rebuilds to support their warrantee. I went with that in mind and so far so good. My engine I sent in as a core had 202K miles on it and was still running. I decided on the rebuild since I did not know the full history of the truck, the engine had a moderate annoying top-end knock and I had the time and money to get it done, knowing that I would not like to be without a truck
 
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However I drive them as they are intended to be driven and I don't try to keep up with the modern boys pulling twice the weight.

I'm very curious what you understand under "as they are intended to be driven"?
 

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Also, as I read how and why this platform is plagued by the cavitation "bug" , and that already with standard cilinders from factory, sure it doesn't seem to be a good Idea to "bore" this engine, that only provokes more "flexibility" in the cilinderwalls.
Now I'm not a machinist, but to me it seems that once this engine is worn out, due to usage, or cavitation, the only healty option is sleeving.
 
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