How to burn WMO ?

[turbodiesel94]

So in say a 50/50 mix would hyd. oil be alright?

 

[wmoguy]

Please do.

I have a customer wanting me to build him a centrifuge system, but I am finding too many people experiencing problems with the PA biodiesel parts, to buy from them.

Thanks.

I did quite a bit of reading on PA products before droping a grand with them. I couldn't find any deragatory stuff like this. I've spoke to Joe (owner) 2x and both times he seemed to really know his stuff and is a straight shooter. I'll have my system fairly soon and hope/feel fairly confident it's everything it's cracked up to be.

 

[idi traveler]

Has any one here heard of oiltofuel.com ?

I did some google searching on the subject a while back. It seem that it is nothing more than a 50/50 blend of what we are doing and filtering to 5 micron or so. I could have gotten bad info, if so teach me. But until then I'm not spending $30 for what I'm already doing.

 

[greg_a_morton]

I bought his water filters and the barrel water filters and they are working for sure. I will say I talked to him and he did tell me something that he puts in every ten gallons and I think he has the right idea. I wont say what it is but I think he is right on. He has been doing this for a while before it was the norm with every body. People thought I was crazy when I was using oil for fuel in 2002 and look at every one now on here.

 

[wmoguy]

All the parts to my PABiodiesel centrifuge are here!!
I got as far as taking all the parts out of their packaging (they do an amazing job of protecting it all for shipping) and fiddling thru the parts. Tomorrow night after work I think I'll get it all put together and run some oil thru it on Sat morning.

 

[oldcheebs]

i was just curios how you were going with th pa bio centrifuge? and the wmo. I have been able to use higher ratios of wmo in hot weather than these guys suggest. do you find wmo after being run through the cent. seems to burn "cleaner?"

 

[wmoguy]

i was just curios how you were going with th pa bio centrifuge? and the wmo. I have been able to use higher ratios of wmo in hot weather than these guys suggest. do you find wmo after being run through the cent. seems to burn "cleaner?"

I don't have much to compare to prior to the fuge. I had run maybe 50 gallons of WMO prior, that was filtered w/ just a 3 can filter setup. In that time I clogged 2 fuel filters.

Since using the fuge I haven't clogged a single fuel filter and have roughly 10-12k miles on the trucks combined. I'm plenty pleased with my PABio setup. I added a 2nd fuge to mine so I know have 2 each, 55 gph fuges running in parrallel. Joe @ PaBio made a ridiculously good offer to upgrade my pump and motor so it can better handle the flow now needed, I need to get off my butt and ship him back this pump and motor to get the upgrade.

As for mix, I have no doubts if i wanted to; I could run 100% wmo provided I started on diesel til warm. I choose not to as I know it's too thick, and just causing premature wear. As is, every batch of fuel I've made costs me way under $1 a gallon so I figure I'm coming out ahead big time. I did make a boo-boo last weekend and Friday night forgot to purge back to the diesel tank prior to shutdown. Saturday morning it was in the low 30's and she was not a happy camper starting on WMO blend (85% wmo) but it did it! I use to shake my head every time I cleaned the fuge out, and wonder to myself why I would run this nasty fuel thru a perfectly good motor. Then it dawned on me that diesel is just as dirty prior to being refined for road use.

 

[seawalkersee]

So...does the oil look clean when you pull it, like at least light could go through it? I ask because that seems to be the claim on the first page of that site.

From what I understand, you can not spin the oil fast enough with the current personal use centrifuge to get the suspended ash out of it.

SWS

 

[wmoguy]

So...does the oil look clean when you pull it, like at least light could go through it? I ask because that seems to be the claim on the first page of that site.

From what I understand, you can not spin the oil fast enough with the current personal use centrifuge to get the suspended ash out of it.

SWS

From what I understand WVO cleans up very nicely and is clear(er) like you stated. My WMO blend is still black as coal when I burn it. I don't think you could ever suspend it well enough to remove the carbon

 

[whenry912]

I run a 3 gallon of oil/7 gallon of diesel mix in my rear tank. I keep the front straight diesel. I start on the front tank and finish on the front tank. Saves a total of about 20% fuel cost. I filter the oil through a 5 micron bag filter. So far, 5k miles doing this, no issues.

 

[69IDI]

So using used diesel oil is not recommended? I work at a shop with 15+ Pete dumps, oil changes are constant. I could get a lot of fuel from them. Is there a need for warmed fuel if it is mixed 50% WMO 50% Diesel?

 

[KyleQ]

I started collecting oil for this purpose - it seems people are just running the oil through progressively smaller filters and cutting it at the end (50/50 or 85/15 for example) and dumping it into one tank. One tank for start-up and shut-down and the other for the WMO mixture.

 

[wmoguy]

I started collecting oil for this purpose - it seems people are just running the oil through progressively smaller filters and cutting it at the end (50/50 or 85/15 for example) and dumping it into one tank. One tank for start-up and shut-down and the other for the WMO mixture.

Thats about it. If you use the filter method and your collection oil is dirty stack up some benjamins for filter purchases. Dirty oil will eat filters like candy. Also "most" filters you buy when they say 5 micron filter, thats not 100% of the fluid filtered to 5 micron, it might be more like 75% at that rate.

Filter, Filter, and filter more is they key IMO

 

[wmoguy]

So using used diesel oil is not recommended? I work at a shop with 15+ Pete dumps, oil changes are constant. I could get a lot of fuel from them. Is there a need for warmed fuel if it is mixed 50% WMO 50% Diesel?

My main collection site is a total hodge podge of oils. I'm guessing its primarily auto oil, but I'm sure it has diesel oil in it too. I'm not worried

50/50 on a cold Wyoming morning would start a whole lot better warmed, or start on Diesel and switch over after you have the truck warmed up

 

[KyleQ]

Well - would it help to put the filter pump pickup on something that floated with a limit on how far it could go down? I'm thinking that stopping it from going to the bottom would prevent it form sucking up a bunch of crap and saving filter life.