HE351VE Remote Mount Turbo

[wmoguy]

I'm getting close to having this project done. I'm only running about 2 months behind.

Anyway, I thought I'd start off a new thread with some basic docs and photos since my other thread is a bit cluttered, and started off with a different direction.

Below is an HE351VE from a 2009 Dodge Cummins 6.7 liter. This is a Veriable Geometry turbo designed to give quick spool up and better power throughout the RPM range. The exhaust housing varies from 3cm to 27cm in size. This turbo has become a fairly popular upgrade on older 5.9 cummins, and is said to be a real winner up to about 500rwhp.

My reasoning for wanting to do an upgrade from the awesome 60-1 wheel'd turbo Russ (Typ4) did for me Was wanting a little more low end boost. Pulling in Colorado often means slow speeds in canyons, etc.. and while the 60-1 was stellar once I was over about 2300 rpm, I was a smokey pig with high EGT's getting there. Even w/ 4.10's I found myself driving my slushbox like a manual trans, and it just kinda sucked.

 

[wmoguy]

The one thing I hadn't taken into consideration when I decided to go w/ this turbo was the physical size being an issue. While I'm sure with a bunch of fab work I could have fit this under the hood; I opted for remote mount. I already feel claustrophobic under the hood of this pickup, and I really didn't want to complicate things more with a monsterous turbo under the hood. Side benefits for me, was I should avoid heat soak and help keep under hood temps down some.

Soo............after a little fab work with a help of a buddy with a better welder, the HE351VE now resides side mounted on the passenger side of my bed, in front of the rear axle.

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['94IDITurbo7.3]

i can't get over the size of that thing.

i take it a remote mount does not effect any performance due to it being far from the engine?

 

[wmoguy]

Originally the plan was to feed the turbo pressurized oil from the IDI, and then use a scavenge pump to return the oil back to the engine. Well, after ordering one of these beauties from Turbowerx I fell in love.

 

[wmoguy]

Because I fell in love with these scavenge pumps I decided to ditch the idea of feeding the turbo oil from the engine. Instead, as they say, 2 is better than 1.

These are my doublemint twins. They are resting quietly in the inbed toolbox on the passenger side.

 

[wmoguy]

The plan of attack became to give this turbo it's own oil supply all together. I figure I can run very long oil change periods, and the turbo may even run a little cooler. Originally I also had reasoned that the savings in hoses and fittings by not running long lines to and back the engine I'd just about break even w/ the cost of the second pump. I've now determined that was bad reasoning.

In search of a cheap oil tank, a 5 gallon air pig from Harbor Freight for $20.00 seemed like a good fit.

 

[wmoguy]

Which brings me to where I'm at today. With bungs welded into the tank I've now got all the oil feed and return complete for the remote mounted HE351VE

One Pump feeds thru a 10AN inline scavenge filter, then thru the pump. over to an adjustable pressure bypass regulator, thru a liquid filled pressure gauge, then to the turbo. The turbo oil return line has it's own scavenge pump which grabs the oil from the turbo and the bypass regulator and circulates it back into the oil reservoir.

 

[wmoguy]

The purty turbo with masking tape protecting her from the elements.

 

[wmoguy]

Exhaust housing on this monster. The plan is to have a turndown come right off the housing and dump near the rear tire. I'm hoping it makes for a ton of turbo whistle.

Added in a pic here w/ my hand to show the housing size. I can palm a basketball pretty easily for reference. The housing exterior dimensions are roughly 11.5" diameter.

 

[wmoguy]

Tomorrow I plan to feed her 4 gallons of oil. (not sure what grade yet. Suggestions?) and I will get power to the pumps.
And the N/A Y Pipe I picked up from Advanced Auto, I'll paint w/ 1500 degree high temp paint. If it's dry afterwards I will wrap it in header wrap.

 

[Drew2010]

that is a sweet project, i cant wait to see the end results

 

[Ididriver]

Do you have any plans of protecting the turbo?
Anyways. Looks freaking sweet.

 

[Ididriver]

Do you have any plans of protecting the turbo?
Anyways. Looks freaking sweet.

 

[snicklas]

I am not sure on the Dodge VGT, but I know the VGT in the 6.0 is really slick. It does help off the line, it does spool quickly, but once it get rolling, you can fell it open up, and really give you a kick in the a$$..... once it really lights (the computer keeps the fuel down until it really lights so it doesn't smoke)... it will put you back in the seat until you lift, or it hit the speed limiter @~ 98mph......

 

[wmoguy]

Do you have any plans of protecting the turbo?
Anyways. Looks freaking sweet.

Not sure just yet. I want to get the turbo done, running boards on the pickup, then I'll figure out some sort of spray plate. I'm not at all into wheelin or muddin so I'm not overly worried about it.

Here's the AEM Air Filter I'll be using. It's a dry filter and I purchased a protective sock for it which is suppose to stop water, snow, mud, etc..