fuel price and saving methods

[RKOCH]

It will cause a coke build up in your engine. I have seen it.

 

[Diezel_Cowboy]

I ran quite a bit of b100 through my truck this past summer, and I also hauled it in 5 gallon cans in the back of the truck to add to my fuel capacity.
Let me tell you that when it got cold i quit running it and I still had some left in the 5 gallon cans bout 15 gal or so total. At 10 degrees Farenheit the stuff was like cottage cheese so I know if you let your truck sit for any length of time in single digit weather you are full of ![/QUOTE

What kind of oil did you use? All mine is soy that titrates at around .5 it looks almost new. It is dependent on the oil you start with. If you are using oil that titrates at 3 or so then yes it will be cottage chesse. The better the oil the better the product. Also I run power service and sea foam in it that helps with any gelling.

I did not make the biodiesel myself, I bought it from a reputable oil supplier. It was B100 or 100% biodiesel that I am describing. I am talking about how it was at Low temperature about 10 degrees F not how it is all the time, once it warmed back up it was fine.

 

[Diezel_Cowboy]

Can you explain your statement with actual reasons why you feel it is not good for your truck? A blanket statement without any reasons does not provide information for those with questions.

Yeah sure here you go guys..............

Oilburners thread that proved to me that WMO is not good.

My main reason is: why put something back into your truck that you just took out of it for obvious reasons! The motor oil is filtered continuously while in the motor and it still turns black, if you can filter the black out of the oil then go for it! Otherwise you are just asking for problems.
I am not trying to convince you to not burn WMO, BUT you will not find me putting it in my truck!
If you read the military test report carefully you can see that the WMO provided no benefit in the way of fuel savings so you tell me how it is worth risking damage to the system and putting dirt in your fuel tank.

 

[Diezel_Cowboy]

Whats a matter guys? No more comments?

 

[sassyrel]

their still in bed---

 

[spg]

Whats a matter guys? No more comments?

I believe this forum is to share Thoughts, Ideas and information. Your statement gives the appearance that you feel your opinion is right and at the end of the day you win. Upon reading the report you noted, the conclusion was that burning WMO in a 7.5% blend was a "win-win situation" and that "no problems attributed to blended fuel use". This based upon "blended fuel is used only at time that oil is changed". So "For every gallon of oil reused (which has already been paid for), he saves the cost of a gallon of JP-8" meaning Diesel to us civilians. So this seems to fit within the framework of this post on how people can save on the cost of diesel fuel.

My personal belief is that if filtered to the 2 to 5 micron range a blend of WMO and or ATF would not hurt anything if it is occasionally used in a 5% to 10% blend with #2 diesel. With higher percentages and or constant use others here say they have seen increased deposit buildups. The report you noted also confirmed that.

So each person can take the information available to them and make a decision on what to do for there own vehicle.

 

[Diezel_Cowboy]

I believe this forum is to share Thoughts, Ideas and information. Your statement gives the appearance that you feel your opinion is right and at the end of the day you win. Upon reading the report you noted, the conclusion was that burning WMO in a 7.5% blend was a "win-win situation" and that "no problems attributed to blended fuel use". This based upon "blended fuel is used only at time that oil is changed". So "For every gallon of oil reused (which has already been paid for), he saves the cost of a gallon of JP-8" meaning Diesel to us civilians. So this seems to fit within the framework of this post on how people can save on the cost of diesel fuel.

My personal belief is that if filtered to the 2 to 5 micron range a blend of WMO and or ATF would not hurt anything if it is occasionally used in a 5% to 10% blend with #2 diesel. With higher percentages and or constant use others here say they have seen increased deposit buildups. The report you noted also confirmed that.

So each person can take the information available to them and make a decision on what to do for there own vehicle.

The conclusion says that the COST is saved because there is less room in the tank!
If you read more than the conclusion you would have read the "Phase II" conclusions that said "CONTINUOUS USE OF BLENDED (WMO) FUEL NOT RECOMMENDED"
You would have also read that the fuel was blended with 7.5%WMO and that one of the engines fuel consumption INCREASED 7.2%.........you do the math! That means that there is no substantial gain what so ever!

As far as your first comments........NO I am not trying to say my opinion is right, but if there is a test like the one mentioned above then the information no longer becomes such an opinion!
The other thing is, and it has happened many times before, that I post something and everyone just goes away............when I am right I would at least like people to say so!

 

[Joe Mc]

Do the math?

7.2% mileage decrease in the GM 6.2 (I wouldn' have one).
no mileage change reported on the Detriot (burning 7.5% less diesel)
equals an unknown mileage change on the International

That is the math.

While I don't know the answer to this interesting problem, I know that many trucking companies burn their own waste oil in their trucks.

 

[Exekiel69]

I would not burn the waste oil on my truck, I think that if I use an rdt to keep it away from my cylinders then I would not put it all the way on the tank either. I will do the wvo setup as soon as I get enough space and figure how to heat it on its way to the IP, that oil may also carry substances that can't be removed by the 2-5 micron filter but it sure is much cleaner than wmo.

 

[Magoo]

I would not burn the waste oil on my truck, I think that if I use an rdt to keep it away from my cylinders then I would not put it all the way on the tank either.

When ever WMO come up, this is what seems to counter it for me.

I am lining up WVO now and hope to make my own bio.

 

[Diezel_Cowboy]

Do the math?

7.2% mileage decrease in the GM 6.2 (I wouldn' have one).
no mileage change reported on the Detriot (burning 7.5% less diesel)
equals an unknown mileage change on the International

That is the math.

While I don't know the answer to this interesting problem, I know that many trucking companies burn their own waste oil in their trucks.

 

[spg]

I would not burn the waste oil on my truck, I think that if I use an rdt to keep it away from my cylinders then I would not put it all the way on the tank either. I will do the wvo setup as soon as I get enough space and figure how to heat it on its way to the IP, that oil may also carry substances that can't be removed by the 2-5 micron filter but it sure is much cleaner than wmo.

Exekiel69,

What does rdt stand for?

 

[spg]

Diezel Cowboy,

I read and printed the entire report you provided the link to. Which is informative to all who read. Thank you for that information. My post also contained the quote that the use of a 7.5% blend at oil change intervals only was what the report said.

No where does the report say you are right. Nor does it say you are wrong.

It is a matter of individual choice to use or not to use a WMO blend.

I believe the purpose of the forum is for people to share ideas and information so that each individual can make up there own mind as to the best course of action. If someone has helpful information to post thats great. If someone has information to help prevent someone from damaging there vehicle thats great too. Its about sharing information more than being right or wrong.

 

[bikepilot]

RTD = Road Draft Tube, its a way of venting the crank case pressure/gasses rather than burning them.

 

[icanfixall]

You are right spg.