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I've been running my WMO set-up since Sept. Works fine. Noticed a little more smoke at idle, and when it's really cold, it takes 2 cycles of the GP's to get her started. I do run straight #2 from the rear tank at times to flush everything out. Don't know if that is really necessary. I'm thinking of making a preheater system so I can run a stronger solution of WMO. Don't know if that is really necessary also. Just thinking off the top of my head.
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My biggest problem is since I went to straight wvo is my factory filter getting restricted when it gets cold so I'm adding a pre filter a little easier to change and a little cheaper too just haven't got it done yet

EZ running bio with out any truck mods is only true if its warm out if it gets cold you still need a heated system in simple terms bio is just veggy oil thats made to ignite easier
 

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I've been thinking about the WMO for my van. I change the oil every 6 - 7 weeks due to the type of service and go through at least 70 gallons of fuel a week, so I have ample opportunity for oil disposal.

What I'm thinking of doing is mounting an electric fuel pump just ahead of the fuel tank, then mount a small micron filter after it. The van fuel filters are a bear to change, so I want to get 100% of the nasties beforehand. A simple spin on filter I can change every few months is a world better than the contortion necessary to change the filter at the motor.

When I was burning motor oil last summer, I stuffed a large funnel with paper towels then filtered the oil through that. I ran 1 gallon with 25 gallons of fuel and had no problems.
 

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I am running b100 all year even in the mountains during deer season it got down to single digits and it started and ran fine.
 

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RKOCH said:
I am running b100 all year even in the mountains during deer season it got down to single digits and it started and ran fine.


Do you have pics of your setup? and info on what you do daily on it in steps?

Thank you.

Also, You are not so far from Me are you?
 

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RKOCH said:
I am running b100 all year even in the mountains during deer season it got down to single digits and it started and ran fine.


I ran quite a bit of b100 through my truck this past summer, and I also hauled it in 5 gallon cans in the back of the truck to add to my fuel capacity.
Let me tell you that when it got cold i quit running it and I still had some left in the 5 gallon cans bout 15 gal or so total. At 10 degrees Farenheit the stuff was like cottage cheese so I know if you let your truck sit for any length of time in single digit weather you are full of :bs !
 

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Our govenor signed a bill last fall that stated we must run B2 spec diesel fuel.
They ran into problems right away.

Beginning on October 1, 2005, all diesel fuel sold in Minnesota was mandated to contain at least 2% biodiesel. In attempt to prepare for the B2 mandate, over 200 gas stations statewide began selling B2 blends, with some selling blends as high as B20 and B100. Minnesota is the first state to require biodiesel inclusion in pump fuel, but several state governments, including Washington, have biodiesel mandates for their state vehicle fleets. Further, states such as Washington, Illinois, and Oregon have passed sales tax breaks for biodiesel distributors and retailers.

Minnesota temporarilly suspended their B2 mandate for 10 days due to "off spec" soy biodiesel found at the oil refinery. The report onReuters.com is the best I have seen. While we do not have any information as to what the "off spec" issue was, this does reflect the difficulty many producers are having with soy as a feedstock and scaling up to produce large quantities of biodiesel.
 

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f-two-fiddy said:
Our govenor signed a bill last fall that stated we must run B2 spec diesel fuel.
They ran into problems right away.

Beginning on October 1, 2005, all diesel fuel sold in Minnesota was mandated to contain at least 2% biodiesel. In attempt to prepare for the B2 mandate, over 200 gas stations statewide began selling B2 blends, with some selling blends as high as B20 and B100. Minnesota is the first state to require biodiesel inclusion in pump fuel, but several state governments, including Washington, have biodiesel mandates for their state vehicle fleets. Further, states such as Washington, Illinois, and Oregon have passed sales tax breaks for biodiesel distributors and retailers.

Minnesota temporarilly suspended their B2 mandate for 10 days due to "off spec" soy biodiesel found at the oil refinery. The report onReuters.com is the best I have seen. While we do not have any information as to what the "off spec" issue was, this does reflect the difficulty many producers are having with soy as a feedstock and scaling up to produce large quantities of biodiesel.


Yep I wish Ohio would make the same mandate! Spec or slightly off, i'd rather run bio, except not in high concentrations during the winter.
 

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Diezel_Cowboy said:
You guys and the WMO! :rotflmao

I've said it before and I'll say it again........WMO might be great for heating your shop or garage in a WMO furnace, but it is definitely not good for your truck! :sucks

I'd like to know the details on this. I'm guessing there are liquid nasties that filtering won't take out?
 

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Diezel_Cowboy said:
I ran quite a bit of b100 through my truck this past summer, and I also hauled it in 5 gallon cans in the back of the truck to add to my fuel capacity.
Let me tell you that when it got cold i quit running it and I still had some left in the 5 gallon cans bout 15 gal or so total. At 10 degrees Farenheit the stuff was like cottage cheese so I know if you let your truck sit for any length of time in single digit weather you are full of :bs ![/QUOTE

What kind of oil did you use? All mine is soy that titrates at around .5 it looks almost new. It is dependent on the oil you start with. If you are using oil that titrates at 3 or so then yes it will be cottage chesse. The better the oil the better the product. Also I run power service and sea foam in it that helps with any gelling.
 

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RKOCH said:
Diezel_Cowboy said:
I ran quite a bit of b100 through my truck this past summer, and I also hauled it in 5 gallon cans in the back of the truck to add to my fuel capacity.
Let me tell you that when it got cold i quit running it and I still had some left in the 5 gallon cans bout 15 gal or so total. At 10 degrees Farenheit the stuff was like cottage cheese so I know if you let your truck sit for any length of time in single digit weather you are full of :bs ![/QUOTE

What kind of oil did you use? All mine is soy that titrates at around .5 it looks almost new. It is dependent on the oil you start with. If you are using oil that titrates at 3 or so then yes it will be cottage chesse. The better the oil the better the product. Also I run power service and sea foam in it that helps with any gelling.


There is an article about diesel additives for veggie oil on the bio forum here, and the PS is the best for oil that I know.
Again, could you post pics of your setup and steps on how you make it?

Maybe the post will be moved to the bio forum, but I'm still interested I'll follow it.
 

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Yeap I am going to take some photos and get some more info. I will probally just start a new thread in the Bio forum for all that are interested.
 

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Diezel_Cowboy said:
You guys and the WMO! :rotflmao

I've said it before and I'll say it again........WMO might be great for heating your shop or garage in a WMO furnace, but it is definitely not good for your truck! :sucks


Can you explain your statement with actual reasons why you feel it is not good for your truck? A blanket statement without any reasons does not provide information for those with questions.
 

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I agree with spg. What are the reasons against WMO, Diezel Cowboy? So far, I've seen no harm in small concentrations of WMO, and it's been prefiltered to remove contaminants. My only concern might be a more frequent fuel filter replacement.
John
 
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