First 750 miles, New IDI engine

[dyoung14]

There has been a few rebuilt idi engines not brek in properly after rebuilding, the first few hundered miles should be ran easy, then it needs to be loaded with a good sized trailer and get the egt's up dont hot rod it, dont work it too hard just work the engine if you run it easy forever the ring will never seat properly

 

[typ4]

There has been a few rebuilt idi engines not brek in properly after rebuilding, the first few hundered miles should be ran easy, then it needs to be loaded with a good sized trailer and get the egt's up dont hot rod it, dont work it too hard just work the engine if you run it easy forever the ring will never seat properly

Not completely true, I loaded the camper on my new engined truck and towed the jeep all the way to wisconsin with 12 miles on the rebuild, 15k load, used 2 qts delo on the whole round trip and does not use any oil in 5k change intervals now, you have to load them and heat them to properly seat things in.

 

[dyoung14]

Not completely true, I loaded the camper on my new engined truck and towed the jeep all the way to wisconsin with 12 miles on the rebuild, 15k load, used 2 qts delo on the whole round trip and does not use any oil in 5k change intervals now, you have to load them and heat them to properly seat things in.

yes thats what i was saying they have to be loaded to deat, i wouldnt do it for a few hundred miles but thats me

 

[stumpjumper3]

I've always been told that right after rebuild. Drain the oil. Then you need to get some heat in the engine to seat everything. I did this when i rebuilt the 360 in my Widetrack. I did a couble of hard high rpm, low speed pulls in first when it was hot to get the rings seated. I've never had it burn any oil so far and it runs great. No leaks either. But i'm sure everybody has their own way to do it. Not saying anyones is wrong, just their way.

 

[Dave7.3]

...Now most cars come new with synthetic oil and the owners manuals now have 10,000+++ mile oil change intervals, even Jiffy lube will not be recommending 3month 3,000 mile intervals in the very near future...


Javier

I'm not sure where you got that idea. I have a 2009 Ford Ranger manual in my lap and it still has the 3month/3000mile change interval. WITH synthetic blend.

In fact, we get a letter in the mail from Ford every three months to remind us that the service for our 2005 Ford Taurus is due. I usually take care of that myself, but they send the notice anyway.

Even the 2010 Dodge diesel my boss owns has a little sticker from Speedy Lube in the corner that goes by 3month/3000 miles...

 

[BioFarmer93]

Dave, they're probably just hoping you'll be dumb enough to bring it to the stealership for one of their $300 oil changes, that all...

 

[Dave7.3]

Dave, they're probably just hoping you'll be dumb enough to bring it to the stealership for one of their $300 oil changes, that all...

Now you are just being extreme! There would have to be something majorly wrong to bring that kind of bill...and I would be having a talk with the service manager. Thankfully I look after my own oil usually. When I haven't been here to service my mother's Taurus, the shop she goes to does a good job for $35.

I just was providing information that I believe disproved Javier's statement, that's all.

 

[rjjp]

... dont hot rod it...

Hell just froze over...Jusk kidding David.

 

[idi traveler]

Now you are just being extreme! There would have to be something majorly wrong to bring that kind of bill...and I would be having a talk with the service manager. Thankfully I look after my own oil usually. When I haven't been here to service my mother's Taurus, the shop she goes to does a good job for $35.

I just was providing information that I believe disproved Javier's statement, that's all.

The first time I took my wife Caddy in to the stealership for an oil change it cost me $88. From then on I did it myself. Nothing extra or special was done.

 

[dyoung14]

Hell just froze over...Jusk kidding David.

If i build mine i wont hot rod on it till way after its brokem in, but if i rebuild mine i plan on turning the rpm no higher than 34-3800

 

[Mikey89014]

Just get in and drive it, geez. These engines aren't rocket science, it will break in no matter what, eventually. Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[idiabuse]

I'm not sure where you got that idea. I have a 2009 Ford Ranger manual in my lap and it still has the 3month/3000mile change interval. WITH synthetic blend.

In fact, we get a letter in the mail from Ford every three months to remind us that the service for our 2005 Ford Taurus is due. I usually take care of that myself, but they send the notice anyway.

Even the 2010 Dodge diesel my boss owns has a little sticker from Speedy Lube in the corner that goes by 3month/3000 miles...

could we see the pictures? severe and normal service.
you ever purchased a Used Oil Analysis kit?
The owners manual is usually where Oil type and interval information is located.
Many times the smaller booklets have service records also with engine oil interval information.
Try find ALL the information on oil/intervals in your owners manuals and additional booklets.
I have seen confusing recommendations before for oil change info...

Javier

 

[idiabuse]

Loose oil pan bolts..... Now tell us did you install a cork or rubber oil pan gasket..... If so thats why you have the leaks... Its too late now because the oil has made a path. It will wick thru that path no matter how tight the joint is. Its just the nature of the oil finding a way to travel where it wants to go....

I had the rubber one on and sealed up, something happened
I used a cork to seal er up.

The leak I stopped, but seepage is evident. OH WELL

So far it does not leave any puddle, a drop or two is all it leaves, I think it was from a leaky injector line I recently fixed.

To answer other questions,

I ran the truck the first 50 miles adjusting and checking everything, once it was ready for road trip, I ran it hard for a few days, @ 3850 she signs OFF.

Pulls hard till redline and revs real quick through the gears, very pleased with results.

Took a few fishing trips normal cruising, no heavy hauling yet to date @ 4300 miles.

No blow by from dipstick, very clean intake, no slobber, crankcase evacuation passeges clean and spotless .

Advance I use now is the OEM setting, makes about 10/11 lbs boost with little smoke.

Clean no smoke at idle.

Oil sample I pulled at 1000 miles had only 52 PPM of iron { same oil now when first cranked} the rest of the fields were satisfactory.

will have a new UOA coming up real soon with 5000 miles on this oil.

mikey89014
Just get in and drive it, geez. These engines aren't rocket science, it will break in no matter what, eventually. Happy Thanksgiving

Thats what I do! get in it and drive it! happy Thanksgiving!

Javier

 

[Dave7.3]

could we see the pictures? severe and normal service.
you ever purchased a Used Oil Analysis kit?
The owners manual is usually where Oil type and interval information is located.
Many times the smaller booklets have service records also with engine oil interval information.
Try find ALL the information on oil/intervals in your owners manuals and additional booklets.
I have seen confusing recommendations before for oil change info...

Javier

Gladly. Judging by your response, I can guess that you haven't ever opened one of these.

In fact, you can read it for yourself since my pictures are barely readable:
http://www.fordtaurus.net/documents/2007-ford-scheduled-maintenance-guide.pdf

Yes, I am aware that is only 2007 model year. But it is the exact same as what I currently hold in my hand. The core manual itself has no recommendation outside of that scheduled maintenance guide. In fact, it refers to the use of the linked guide for service intervals. Please be sure to read all the pages. Oh and according to that guide, normal conditions are 5000 miles and severe are 3000 mile intervals. I was a little off, but it is a far cry from 10,000 mile intervals.

Remind me to catch my boss sometime next week and have him take a picture of the oil window sticker, if you still want to see it.

As far as ever purchasing an analysis, I have not purchased one. I may consider it in the future, but the 3000 mile interval seems to be the changing point for my oil as I see it. I'm not fond of waiting until my oil is black molasses to change it.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Dave

 

[idiabuse]

Gladly. Judging by your response, I can guess that you haven't ever opened one of these.

In fact, you can read it for yourself since my pictures are barely readable:
http://www.fordtaurus.net/documents/2007-ford-scheduled-maintenance-guide.pdf

Yes, I am aware that is only 2007 model year. But it is the exact same as what I currently hold in my hand. The core manual itself has no recommendation outside of that scheduled maintenance guide. In fact, it refers to the use of the linked guide for service intervals. Please be sure to read all the pages. Oh and according to that guide, normal conditions are 5000 miles and severe are 3000 mile intervals. I was a little off, but it is a far cry from 10,000 mile intervals.

Remind me to catch my boss sometime next week and have him take a picture of the oil window sticker, if you still want to see it.

As far as ever purchasing an analysis, I have not purchased one. I may consider it in the future, but the 3000 mile interval seems to be the changing point for my oil as I see it. I'm not fond of waiting until my oil is black molasses to change it.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Dave

I read many different manufactures owners manuals, I have now a 2002 Mercury Mountaneer and also a Nissan Armada I have been reading.

Anyway most people who change thier oil as often as 3 months 3000 miles also can experience (unscheduled maintence) AKA "Run to Failure"
From many things, like coolant contamination, Air filter system breach, to name just a few.

Just blindly changing oil can mask symptoms of failure, coolant in the oil does not mean your oil will turn to milk shake with 2%/5% coolant intrusion, It will jelly up the inside of the engine, and a routine oil change wont show this.
But a UOA will show this thousands of miles or even years before it causes you a day of "Unscheduled maintence".

I dont need any verification from jiffylube on 3000 mile drains.

many 2011 model Fords will have 10,000 mile oil change intervals.

I know you are against ruining a good engine with expensive oil and used oil analysis, It simply is way too much data to absorb in such a short time between 3month 3000 mile oil changes

I need Data to make decisions and without it I will spend much more money than I needed.

I hope it is ok I use $150 for 5 gallons of oil. I think it has much more VALUE than lower priced oils.
I can only say this cause I have years of DATA to prove to ME that I went in the right direction.

If you like to learn something just keep reading, if not leave it alone

For the ones who want a third party evaluation of engine oils that is up to date and is factual, here ya go>>>>> http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Art..._and_other_reasons_to_change_oil__part_1.aspx

I hope I can help people understand that using low quality petrolium will cost you thousands of dollars extra operating your equiptment, Have it your way...

Javier