Failed AC Receiver/Dryer?

david85

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Before pulling my truck off the road for the resto, I used it briefly in some warmer weather. I had recently installed a new receiver dryer since I thought it would be a good idea when I tried out a variable orifice tube. Everything seemed fine after recharging but it was a few days before the real test happened.

While idling in traffic, I started to hear a chirping belt. I tried turning off the AC. Sure enough the sound stopped. Got home and the belt tension was good but the compressor was extremely stiff and I couldn't turn it by hand. My first thought was the compressor was shot.

Then a few days later it tested fine...for a few minutes. Something was gradually loading up. After pulling apart the system, I found the orifice tube was rather forcefully jammed in place under a pipe of oily "grey stuff". I tried cleaning it out and putting it back together but there were still issues. Low side pressure stayed very low so the compressor kept trying to push until the belt couldn't keep up. I had no way of measuring the hot side pressure but I assume it would have been too high.

The compressor didn't appear to be internally leaking. After shutting it off, the hot and cold lines stayed that way so the internal seals and valves appear to be holding. Once the pressure dissipates through the orifice, I can turn it by hand and still hear a slight hiss as small amounts of refrigerant are pushed through.

Not long after, the truck got decommissioned and went under the knife so I wasn't able to pursue the matter further. That was more than a year ago. Now that its back together, I'm trying to plan my attack on this problem.

After doing some reading, It seems this could be the desiccant material coming out and getting pumped through the system until getting clogged in the screen for the orifice. The dryer was ordered new from rockauto at the same time I purchased the variable orifice tube (don't remember exact brand, but think it was 4 seasons).

So what do you think guys? Am I on the right track? Any recommendations for a better brand of orifice tube and dryer? Will I have to replace the compressor now?
 

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Sounds like you have the right ideas to me.
Personally I would replace the compressor.
Flush everything thoroughly.

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What's the history of this A/C system? It could have had a compressor failure some time before you got the truck and now there is junk all through the system. Black death they call it.
 

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Black death did occur years ago but I've had many years of reliable service since swapping in a used compressor after that incident. I did flush the system out at the same time. In that case, the compressor lines would quickly settle to a similar temperature after shut off, indicating internal leakage past the compressor. There was also no real resistance when trying to turn the compressor by hand, nor was there any slight hiss at the orifice tube. Eventually it simply wouldn't move refrigerant anymore. My memory is a little faded, but I think that stuff was more black than grey.

Its entirely possible that this compressor is coming apart, but it still moves refrigerant for now. I'm just wondering how common this desiccant problem is and if so, where should I get a new one that won't fail again on me?
 

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Its very common for the R12 dessicant bag to split when it's been subjected to R134a.

Ocasionally a new R134a dryer or accumulator will burst..Made in China!

Either way you need a lot of flushing and new compressor,dryer and tube if you want working AC. There are no shortcuts,especially now.
 

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Its entirely possible that it is from the compressor, but desiccant can also have a light grey color. Of course I'm also trying to remember from over a year ago.

Oh well, looks like I should have left well enough alone back when I decided to try the variable orifice tube.

Anyone have advice on where to shop for parts? Is 4 seasons a good brand?
 

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Likely your compressor is shot. And if it blew, you will have to replace orfice tube, drier, & flush out the entire a/c system.
An auto shop will cost you an arm & a leg to get your a/c back up and running. It's best to source parts yourself & install them. That way all you have to have shop do is evac & recharge system, although flushing might be in order as well.
 

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I won't be going to a shop. I can evacuate the system myself and will be running hydrocarbon refrigerant, which has worked fine until I messed with it. The compressor I had was also used with an unknown history when I bought it nearly 10 years ago. I guess it doesn't owe me anything at this point.
 
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