Engine Hoist for Tractor Loader Bucket

[Old Goat]

It`s difficult enough to push around an Engine Hoist (Cherry Picker) with
an engine hanging on it on Concrete or Asphalt.
Sometimes we don`t have the luxury of a hard surface.

Iam in the process of pulling an engine out of a 83 Mercedes 300D Turbo.
I picked this thing up 3 years ago. Got hit in the LR corner, kind of a side swipe
sort of, missed the side of the car but the wheels were turned towards the Curb.
Hit the L/F wheel and tore out the whole suspension on that side.
Had the car delivered, but is 75 ft from the shop out in the gravel.

The engine/trans is ready to come out, and I come up with the idea of installing the hoist to the Loader bucket. I have 3 Cherry pickers, one that is as tall s I am, and one that is a short one. Set the main up right part in the bucket, (part the Boom and ram connect to) thinking bolt it to the bucket, and the 2 metal straps to the back of the Bucket.

Then did a Google search on Engine hoist mounted to loader.
I found a picture exactly what I had dreamed up. The guy stole my idea....
Looks like the exact HF one I have.

Engine Hoist Adds Loader Lift Height

When his tractor loader couldn't reach high enough to set the top bar of his new two-post car lift, Tom Roland mounted an engine hoist on his tractor bucket. He removed the legs and wheels from ...

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I was drilling holes in the bucket, but the welded on cutting edge is hardened steel,
and those HF Drill Bits are junk, did have one small one drilling the pilot hole that went right through, but the rest of them wouldn`t try.
So today off to find a good one.

This set up should work lifting out one our IDI engine`s also.
This way I get an Engine hoist with Big Wheels.

Note: Never work under any Hydraulic system w/o it being secure so it will
not suddenly fall on you. A section of angle iron (for example) strapped on the
the shinny part to keep the lift arms from dropping. The bucket rams would need to rig up something different as they would be pulling out as the Bucket drops.
I ran equipment for years, and have seen them fail.
Was running a JD 544 and the Big ram for the Bucket curl blew apart and the Bucket dropped instantly.

Was running a JD 672A Road Grader all day, was coming back to the yard zooming down a windy mountain road, and started to loose my Hydraulics, Blade started to drop, lifted it and slowly came down, then the steering etc... just came through a cut
and the road opened up to a turn to the left but the machine wanted to go straight, ran up on a high dirt berm and the blade dug in and stopped me.
A 3/4" main hose came apart where it was crimped on the end. Lost 40 gallons on HYD oil on the road and then down the shoulder where I was parked. That was a scarry one.

Yet we work under an engine hoist with a a 600 - 1000lb engine dangling on it w/o any thought...


Goat

 

[IDIBOBS]

Great idea. be used many old hoists mounted to buckets just like that. It works great. Try a quality step bit for the holes in the bucket.

 

[miked]

You would have to invest in a silica carbide grinding wheel, also knowing that silica carbide wheels can't be used on ferrous metals after spending your money on it so it may not be for everyone
But I have had good success reprofileing cement drills into a metal cutting point, for drilling through tough materials.

 

[Old Goat]

Little up date on the Tractor Engine Hoist.
My tractor is a Kioti CK30, think maybe built in 2010.
Last summer I noticed the Bucket drifting down, figured the
Rams were getting tired. Removed and dropped off at the Hyd shop
and the seals replaced. All 4, Lift Arm and bucket curl.

With the hoist installed on the Bucket, and raised up. the Bucket slowly
droops down. So I throw an Axle strap over the grill Guard, and short Chain
on the Bucket, with a Chain Binder to keep it tight and level.
Grill Guard is stout enough to hold it (I think) has a horizontal piece of Pipe
maybe 4", with the 2 side pieces going down to a plate bolted to the frame
with 4 Bolts. The plate is about 1" wider than the Frame.
Note: what dum az z forgot to do was block the Lift Arm Rams from retracting.
The total weight was pulling against that 1" piece on each side and bending it.
Something to fix and beef up.

I blew an axle seal on the front axle and another Hyd leak I wanted fixed,
hauled it to the dealer for that plus to check the HYD pump and check the Joy
Stick Hyd control valve to see if it needed rebuilt or replaced. Said pump was
putting out per spect.
Also said according to Kioti, it is acceptable for the Hyd system to drop 12"
per hour. It`s an open system vs a closed system.
I read up on the difference between the two, still don`t fully understand how
each one works.

Did some Google searching, and seems other small tractor brands have the
same problems of bleeding off.

I forget what this tractor can lift, but with the Hoist Arm way past the Bucket,
lessens the lift capacity.

Note, it will pick up an IDI Engine with the Chain attached under the Bucket.
I have a 6.9 and a 7.3 I have moved with it.
Even if it could pick up the engine out of the vehicle, biggest draw back is the
Hydraulic system bleeding down slowly.

Dum Az z Goat

 

[ihc1470]

Personally I use a fork lift fork. I feed hay all the time so just pull the hay forks off that frame and sit the fork lift fork on. Have a hole in the end of the fork that I drop a pin that is welded to a piece of 4 inch square tubing through and then chain goes through the tubing. No way for the chain to slip, goes at least ten feet into the air. Have had 1500 plus pounds on it several times.

 

[Old Goat]

I thought about a Fork Lift, but need one with large enough tires to
drive in the dirt. I was just talking to my Wife about a Fork Lift couple
days ago, she said, "well go buy one".


Goat

 

[ihc1470]

Not a fork lift, just forks on a loader tractor. Handy as a button on a shirt. Tractor is also 4x4 and hydrostat so goes most anywhere and you do not have to slip a clutch.

 

[IDIBRONCO]

I thought about a Fork Lift,

I've used a forklift to R&R engines before. It works.

I was just talking to my Wife about a Fork Lift couple
days ago, she said, "well go buy one".

Better jump right on that one!

 

[DougBoy66]

I would be cautions with it mounted on the bucket with these heavy motors extended out on the lift boom. Unless your is a larger tractor. But make one to attach to the 3 point hitch and now your talking some lifting stability.