Engine carnage pictures, how do I interpret this?

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I am no longer questioning whether I was right in yanking out my old 7.3 and sticking the 6.9 in. Whatever happened, it was not pretty. Here are pictures of the passenger side of the engine.
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Ok, so first off something isn't right. Somehow a ton of water got in my motor. It started raining as we were pulling it out (durn Colorado weather), and has sat under a tarp for a few months, but this is a lot. So maybe expanding frozen water caused some damage, and definitely a lot of rust. There is a bunch of crap in there that couldn't have been in there the day I pulled it. Right before I pulled it, I fired it up, drove it to where I was going to pull it. Smoked like crazy, low on power, but pretty decent running.

As you can clearly see, 3rd cylinder back has a giant split in it. Any suggestions as to what caused that would be appreciated. What I don't get is that, when I did a compression test, all cylinders were showing 150-200 psi. My tester was probably faulty, but I wouldn't expect that cylinder to show anything at all.

Some history for those who care to know. I owned and drove this engine for 6,000 miles. It is a 91 engine that came in my 94 truck. No idea of mileage. It ran and drove well for me, until it started smoking badly. Subsequent compression test (which may not be very accurate due to a worthless compression tester) showed around 150-200 psi all around. It blew at the end of a 1500 mile trip to Colorado pulling a 2 horse trailer. I was headed up a 6 mile dirt road, about 3% grade. No gauges except stock, stupid, but I was really trying to keep it out of the throttle. Rolled across a scale earlier in the trip right at 14,000 lbs. Started smoking a lot and didn't sound so good, so I shut it down. After I got the truck towed, I put a real oil press gauge and had good oil press. No oil in coolant or coolant in oil that I could tell. Probably ran it 15 minutes total after it first problems, I don't understand how I could have done that with a cylinder wall totally caved in like that.

Tomorrow I'll try to pull the other head and see whats under there. I'm battling the flu and its cold outside. This one was fun enough to lift off and carry by myself.

Anyway, maybe someone has some ideas.:popcorn
 

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I would be interested in seeing if that is truly a hole in the rear piston or just debris where the inj fires :dunno

Kinda hard to do failure analysis after exposure to the elements tho .....
 

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X2. Too much rust to get a good feel for it all. The crack in the cylinder is the most intriging exhibit.
 

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That hole in the cylinder is crazy. I don't know how frozen water could have even caused that. Not with the little amount thats in there. I've left engines outside before for even a year under a tarp and never have I had one fill up with water like that. The engine we are currently running in my moms crew cab came to us as a low mile fresh rebuilt motor, but when we got it it had over a a gallon if not several gallons of water in the crank case. At that point we said screw it it was going to run no matter what it looked like in there so we threw it in the truck and have been trying to blow it up ever since.
 

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You talked about the rain. I'm guessing this is after the compression test. So... If it sat in the rain with the hood closed did rainwater leak in from the cowl to hood seal??? If it did you are supposed to have a rubber gasket type seal under the air filter cover... If you don't then I'm thinking rainwater leaked in and sat on the air filter top... Then leaked into the intake manifold doing what you see with a freeze...
 

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one more thing....
i'm curious to see if there is any overbore markings on the pistons....
look for .020 or .030 stampings.
 

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I don't think that the water in there freezing caused that giant crack in the cylinder. There's just not enough of it. I really don't know how all this water got in there, without some neighbor kid or something filling it up. I went to fairly extensive measures to keep it clean, at several points when the intake was open while pulling and moving it I shoved some paper towels in there to soak up any that did get in. I think once I get the other head off, and rotate the engine over a few times, that will help clean some of the crap out of there and I can see better. You can't really tell from pic but the number 1 cylinder is clean, still oily and such. Wish I'd had time to pull it apart back in June...
 

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Tarps will not keep the water out. I bet the water froze then drained out the busted piece, you could have never driven it broken like that. Save the cam.I need cores. If you are scrapping it I will gladly pay shipping to get the cam and lifters.

Huge bummer, I cant let anything good sit here in oregon without it turning into a rustball.
 

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I'll bet the reason number one is dry is because its just closed the intake valve and is stating to compress the charge. I also bet number 6 and 8 are wet also.
 
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