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yaric008 said:
Well what do you expect? Everyone wants faster cars, better fuel mileage, less expensive, all at the same time. There isn't inifite metal in the earth or fuel, so why should car manufactures take a step backward and put more and more metal on the cars. They've been stuck in a rut for years and they're just not starting to slowly get out of it by trying to make things more efficient.

I say more plastics... as long as it's still safe.

Uhm, it has been a few years since my last chemistry class, but I believe that we discussed the components of plastic - IIRC, petroleum was one of those things used in plastic - so I guess you are saying it is ok to replace our renewable resource (metal can and is readily recycled) with yet another draw on the petroleum products?
 
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If you didn't buys such pieces of ****, you wouldn't have to work on them all the time. Maybe you should buy some other brands so that he can make bad opinions about them as well.

I've never driven a 300-6 that was "weak." That's a damn good engine.
 

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82fordtruck said:
If you didn't buys such pieces of ****, you wouldn't have to work on them all the time. Maybe you should buy some other brands so that he can make bad opinions about them as well.

So you feel the same way about Fords huh!

I've never driven a 300-6 that was "weak." That's a damn good engine.

Never driven one that was a power house either. Later models were quite common on the bench with cracks at the machine shop, they (as did many GM included) lightened the castings to the point of common cracking.
 

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sle2115 said:
So you feel the same way about Fords huh!



Never driven one that was a power house either. Later models were quite common on the bench with cracks at the machine shop, they (as did many GM included) lightened the castings to the point of common cracking.


I feel that all brands are about equal, all things considered. All of us have fords because we like this engine. I like the way they are set up, I'm comfortable with them. But, they're no better or worse than anyone else.

He has it in a half ton. That's a pretty good engine for a half ton. It's underpowered for pulling a trailer in a bigger truck, but good for a 3/4 ton or 1 ton that just needs the load capacity. It's real nice with that zf5 behind it though.
 

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From someone who has owned most brands, I have not found any to be better acrossed the board.
Grandpa started buying Fords in the '20s and two new Fords in 3 generations were lemons, a '48 and '68 both pickups.
All brands have thier weak points during certain model runs, years, components, uses and owners habits.
If you have had a string of high maintenace used vehicles, regardless of make, take somebody else along. You might not be good at picking up on signs of a woreout vehicle or maybe your operating habits need a slight adjustment.
Are you expecting vehicles with 100k or 200k to not need at least some major work?
I would suggest buying your next pickup based on mechanical condition not make.
 

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I spend tons of time and money working on mine but its 15 years old with 358,000 miles on it so that is to be expected. I have always loved my Fords. I have a 2001 F150 and I have never done anything to it but change the fluids. Great truck. Hopefully one day I can afford a newer work truck so the IDI can get an overhaul but I guess we'll see.
 

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82fordtruck said:
He has it in a half ton. That's a pretty good engine for a half ton. It's underpowered for pulling a trailer in a bigger truck, but good for a 3/4 ton or 1 ton that just needs the load capacity. It's real nice with that zf5 behind it though.

I don't disagree with you on the 300-6. Is a pretty good engine, not a power house, not great mileage etc. so it doesn't really fit into my needs. I either need mileage (daily driver) or power (working truck) and the 300-6 doesn't fit either bill, but then really what full size truck does get great mileage. Having owned Chevy's up to now, I have just not had these types of problems. They weren't diesel either though. I guess from that standpoint, I never looked at firewall etc. before buying because I was not a Ford owner and it just didn't come to mind, kind of one of those things learned.

My father worked directly with Ford for years. He had clearance into many test areas that most of us don't even know exist as he was a QC manager for a company that supplied about all of their dashes, front ends etc. and found the QC process in place by Ford to be one of the best, although mis-understood by even many of their engineers. That being said, he has owned two Fords in his 35 year tenure there both were used cars and purchased as "good deals". If you look at many of the parts in our Sable, they are cracked and such and even though the company my dad worked for told Ford what they wanted wouldn't work, Ford insisted things be made a certain way, so they made them as spec'ed.

At any rate, I have had 4 GM Vehicles that were sold with over 300,000 miles on them with no major problems. The worst being my 1983 Celebrity which stripped the nylon timing gear at over 200,000. None them were babied, but all were well maintained. My hopes with this truck was that with a little TLC, it could be nursed back to a useful product and I think I am well on my way. I just didn't think that in the end, getting the clutch problems fixed would be a major part of the budget (firewall kit, master and slave cylinder, pedal bracket etc. etc. etc.). Having owned many GM and even a Dodge truck up including up to tandem axle trucks, I have never had to fix a firewall and pedal bracket in anything but a Ford. Yes, there have been other repairs, but nothing so brand specific such as this. At any rate, my truck is up and running, is much better with the current axle configuration etc. and at a point that someone shows me the right amount of cash, I will continue to drive it and use it as planned! :)
 

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rhanae said:
i cant beleive i said it but iam done.i cant remember 1 ford that i have owned that i didnt have to work on all night to get to work tomorrow.really!!when i was a kid i had a couple of mustangs loved em spent all my free time defending them.(when i wasnt working on them).then i bought my first truck a ford ranger.soon after i had engine probs.trany probs and of course the front end went out and i had to get new front axels.then i went to full size trucks got a cluncker right from the start 89 ford 1/2 ton with straight 6 gas no power what so ever and then everything u can think of went bad electrical probs clutch went rear end locked up then cracked head.(are u laughing yet iam not)and now i have a 1994 f250 4x4 off road that iam sick of working on the only thing that is good on it is the engine and that aint even ford its international.man i wish they still made pickups. does any one have an opinion on which truck i should try next?because this one is going to the scrap yard!!!!!!!! :puke:

So you come to us with a transmission problem, and a few posts later, your throwing in the towel eh? Well I say PLEASE DO. We find that whiners just take up our valuable posting time here, and your probably not worthy of your Ford anyway. Some people are just cursed. I've known a few. Like wives who leave their husbands for another man, they are seldom satisfied with what they have, and constantly look at the other lawns as being greener. Go in peace, and find that other brand that you think will make you happy. Only after you have tried them all will you realize the futility of your decision. ;Sweet
 

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They all have problems - don't care what anyone says... I have likes and dislikes of all brands so for me I'll drive typically whatever I get the best deal on at the time I'm in need. I will say that out of all brands Chevy has been the one that gave me the least amount of trouble but one also has to factor in that my Chevy's have all been fairly new less than 30k when purchased or brand spanking new and I did not keep them for anything more than 80k miles on the clock. Now second has to be Dodge. I have owned two brand new dodges and both had problems then I've had some older dodges (time and mileage wise) and they do have their problems. Now for the Fords I must list them last but one must remember that most of problems that I state/quote with them was with The E but one must first realize that I beat on the E with a sledge hammer per sa... I mean I drove the snot out of her and turned the power up so that meant that I had to drive her like a sports car so naturally when you do that a guy is gonna break stuff more often... So trust me it's not Ford's inabilitiy to design a good product it's my fault for the problems... I mean one can't actually expect an engine to run for tons of miles when the owner is squirting windshield fluid down the intake.... cookoo

So I say take a step back and look at what condition (age and mileage) and then also look at driving style that you give them. I know that I drove The E harder than I did anything else - well I take that back I drive my current dodge pretty hard but she hasn't made the 2year 70k mile mark under my rein yet so the jury is still out on it....

But if you think that other brands are without fault then you're in for a sad awakening... Because as I said they all have their faults... but then again maybe you will prove that wrong...
 

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sle2115 said:
I have to disagree - I all cars are junk these days - too much plastic (well, the ford firewall would prolly be stronger if it was plastic). :puke:
Sorry the humor was lost on you, it was a play on the old adage.... there is no such thing as a bad dog...... ahhh nevah mind! :rolleyes:
 

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for all u guys that are mad after reading this its ok i understand i defended ford for a long time.now as soon as u figure out what i did youll save yourself alot of money and frustration.
 

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95_stroker said:
Sorry the humor was lost on you, it was a play on the old adage.... there is no such thing as a bad dog...... ahhh nevah mind! :rolleyes:

Wasn't lost, just not acknowledged! :angel:
 

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my father in law has a semi-truck with about 30k miles on it.
it's in the shop.

a good friend owns a half ton pickup with 10k miles on it, it's in the shop.

at least, I can fix my truck in the yard. Either way, all things mechanical break.
Am I a Ford man? not really..... 400k miles on a 300/6 with a c6 trans and never a problem led me to buy a 7.3

I also like dewalt tools.... same reason, nothing rational, just that they never let me down, and I work them harder than most.
 
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