battery cable question

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Wanted to make sure doing this would be ok...my passenger side battery cable the terminal is pretty much shot and I always have to adjust it when I go to start the truck because it will not clean up on the post any longer. Now I have gotten to the point where the truck won't start like the batteries are dead. Wanted to make sure when I replace my cable that I can take a ring terminal on the small black wire that runs from the starter to the Cable on the block and if I can use a ring terminal for the small black wire that goes from the glow plug harness that has a small electrical box connection on the passenger side fender well. Just wanted to do this to get by until I can make new cables
 

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Thanks guys sorry for the confusion I meant the negative cable on my passenger side needs replaced not sure what I do with my starter wire that's tied in and the small wire rear the voltage regulator that has a clip that is a small box shape. I could get a picture if it's easier to understand
 

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Yeah get a pic.
There's no reason for the starter wire to be tied into the ground. That smaller wire off the ground terminal should run to the fender.
Starter wire goes to the fender solenoid.

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http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Flag-Post-Battery-Terminal-Connector-2-Gauge-Wire,67347.html
heres something i found that will hopefully benefit someone.
group 38's are the way to go!

If you use those battery cable terminals solder them on with a torch and rosin core solder. They make a factory look cable that works real good. Have a wet rag ready and after you fill it with solder remove heat and quench it with wet rag, wiping any excess solder, just like sweating copper pipe. You may even be able to use your old cables if they are long enough or welding cable works well. Don't use acid core solder or flux from the plumbing department, as this is for copper pipe not electrical.
 
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How I fixed the Ford battery cable problem

After pricing the replacement cable and fighting with old, tired, and damaged connections, I did this.

Hope the pictures are self explanatory:

Marine terminals from Walmart with 3/8th bolts used on all 4 posts. Cost less than $4 each. There are two sizes common, 3/8th is the bigger one. WalMart sells them as individuals rather than a set of one big, one little, like most auto parts stores package them.

One pair of lead post liners that let you run a positive post clamp on the smaller negative terminal battery post. I trim a slot up one side of the post liner to get it to clamp down tight on the smaller post. ***** will clip out what you need.

Welding cable ends and a welding cable crimp-er ... hammer type. Heat shrink tubing and a tube of DC4 electrical connection lube to coat the ends of the cable and lug end before you crimp them on.

Cut the old damaged clamps off with a hack saw..fine tooth blade works best, if the cable isn't corroded inside the insulation, cut as close to the old clamp as possible, trim back the insulation, coat it with DC4 which locks out water and stops corrosion, use DC4 inside the cable end, mate the two firmly together, and crimp them.. Slide the big shrink tubing over the new joint and shrink it down to protect the new connection.

Cost for the cable lug crimp tool was about $36, 4 marine battery connections = $12, welding lugs, about $3 each, shrink tubing another $8 with some left over [get the extra thick stuff, it works best. If you can't find that, do two layers of the thinner shrink tubing].

I've done this now on 3 of my trucks and 2 friends trucks [one dodge owner who saw mine and begged me to do it.. so a total of 6 trucks] All with the same crimp tool, which still works just fine. So, it's been a good investment.

I've been running this setup now for 7 years on the oldest truck. NO issues.
Note: Use a wave washer under the wing nuts, it will increase the clamp pressure, and tighten the wing nuts with a little pliers pressure, not just finger tight, to ensure a good connection..

Clean, Bright, Tight, is the rule with battery connections.

It's VERY handy when I'm working on the truck and need to disconnect the batteries.. or if I park the truck and don't want to have a drain down... also handy to add a lug under the hot post for running lights or anything else..

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Drivers side hot post

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Drivers side ground post with body ground lug

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Passenger side ground post

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Passenger side hot post, with starter lead and solenoid lead laying disconnected. As you can see, I've made them individual leads when cut out of
the stock Ford flag post arrangement.

Hope this helps.. it's saved me a lot of grief with battery cables and cost.
So far, I've been able to use the original cables and just trim the ends back to accept the welding cable lugs [about 1/2inch of insulation stripped back]
 
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Great job Gmann. That works and if you ever convert to group 31 batteries you will have the cable part done already. But I would solder lugs. You can crimp and solder if you want, thats what I do with smaller stake-on type terminals.
 

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Solder them if you want. The weld cable lugs have a small hole in the front [most of them] to float solder in.

I've been running them for 7 years now, with no issues. I do keep the lugs clean, bright, and tight. Way easier to pull the cables and pull the batteries now. I use anti corrosion rings under the marine clamp terminals and DC4 on the batt post also. I think it helps keep a clean connection.

The crimp tool I bought from NAPA.. over the counter item.. Don't know how I lived without one now that I have it.. Just used it to make 80 battery cables for my solar battery bank.. more than paid for it's self.
 

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Cables are pretty quick and easy to make. When mine got bad I just went to NAPA and got 2/0 cable. Paid a premium on it over online pricing but I only needed like about 6' or 7' of each color and everywhere I saw online with good pricing was a 25' or so minimum. Had to order the lugs online as NAPA nor anywhere else had 2/0 3/8" lugs. Between new cables and a pair of group 31s it's the best thing I did to ym truck. It always starts, right away, and even when I had a pump and line issue and had to crank a long time over many cycles to bleed the air out it never slowed down. If you don't have time and it's frigid cold where you are just make one negative cable for the bad one and replace the rest when time permits.
 

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I built a set of cables for my 97 an got my material from custombatterycables . com great service an awesome materials..
 

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A great source for raw cable would be good quality jumper cables of the right gauge. It's usually much cheaper foot for foot than the premade lengths.
 
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I took my old negative cables to Napa. They took them to the back and made up new negative cables that matched. Really nice quality too. We're they cheap? Not really, but I am not into cutting corners on parts that really make a difference.
 
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