Anyone trading in their clunker?

[Todd C]

Thanks for the link Mel. I just sent a message too. This program is wrong in many ways as has been discussed above.

I don't have any "Clunkers," just a bunch of older Fords
My Family's older vehicles:
1986 F-350 Diesel
1982 F-150 4.9L
1988 F-150 5.0L
1987 Bronco II
1987 Bronco II (not a typo, we have two)

and I'm not getting rid of any of them! I'm certainly not going to let them destroy the engines, and all the good parts! That just doesn't make sense. Ever hear of "Recycled" auto parts?

 

[icanfixall]

Thanks Mel for bringing up the fact about the large transformers from Korea. I was envolved in working on several of them... Seems they didn't install a provision for a special roll pin so the 500,000 volt cable wouldn't slip out of its insulater.... I had to "rid up" 45 ft in a bucket on several transformers to make a repair but... This is only the tip of the iceberg... The large steam generaters are not a shelf item... It takes a minum of three years to make just the turbine rotor and blades. The case is made quicker. Any mistake in the machining and its trashed.... So lots of overseas power companys are "looking closely" at buying the closed power plants here.. Tearing them apart and shipping them home... Then assembling them(with the same inported cheap labor forse used to disassemble them) and make cheap polluting power in China or elsewhere... There will be a glut of worn out power plants in the very near future... Mohajve Genertaing station is the first coal powered plant that will go this way.... Its been shut down for 3 1/2 years. The pollution upgrades were to cost $2 billion so the Grand Canyon air could be cleaned up.. Has it cleaned up any yet???

 

[Compu Doc]

One good way to get even in the power plant removal scheme is require the Chinese government to pay US workers to disassemble the power plants that they want to relocate to China . When we send them to China on a barge or a ship make sure that all the blueprints are sent with the power plants but before doing so make sure that they are printed in an order that does not make any sense for assembly . They might just have to import American workers to put them back together

 

[adam g]

Well for the first time in my 30 years I have written my senators and representative. I expressed my veiws, granted only in email but better than nothing.

 

[CDX825]

Have you guys seen the list of vehicles that qualify? Its just plain nuts and some of the newest ones being 2004 models.

http://www.edmunds.com/cash-for-clu...193455&kw=N&synpartner=edmunds&mktid=cj260233

 

[Bill-W]

http://www.fightcashforclunkers.org/

To late now but I sent it any anyways, maybe it will help end future funding of this flawed program.

BTW, the cashier at the grocery store tonight was real proud of her brand spanking new loaded Focus. I told her I hope she will not loose her job or have her hours cut, she looked at me with a blank stare, oh well add one more to the future repo list.

 

[Compu Doc]

The ones that are trading in the clunkers probably can't afford them in the first place. I'm willing to be that in a years time or less we will hear about all the repo's just as we heard about all the foreclosures. I guess people will never learn.

I bought one new car in my life and I wasn't making enough money to make a car payment, pay rent, eat and pay my utility bills so I went out and got a part time job that basically had fallen in my lap. I was at a tire place looking to get a flat fixed on a tractor that I was running for my full time job. The guy that usually fixes those type of flats was out on the road and no one else there could do it so I told the guy if he shows me where the stuff is at I will fix it myself and I did. After I was done he asked me if I wanted a job and of course I replied yes.

I was working my regular job from 7am-3pm Mon-Fri and the part time job from 4pm-8pm and the part time job on Saturdays from 8am-5pm. Sundays I had off from both jobs.

The question is how much does a cashier make to afford a brand new fully loaded car?. The other question is how hard will it be for this person to find another job in this economy in addition to the one she already has after she figures out that she can't afford the car.

Keep us updated if it is a store you regularly go to and know this person somewhat well. I'd like to know how she is doing in paying for the car or if she says it got repoed.

 

[k_williams1982]

Have you guys seen the list of vehicles that qualify? Its just plain nuts and some of the newest ones being 2004 models.

http://www.edmunds.com/cash-for-clu...193455&kw=N&synpartner=edmunds&mktid=cj260233

Take a look at the Fords. It only goes back to '90 and the list doesn't contain a single DIESEL engine in the list!

 

[david85]

Just stumbled across this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqfuZ7hiap0&feature=related

Honestly don't know what to make of it since Glen Beck does like to make a big deal out of this stuff, but still makes you wonder.

 

[CDX825]

Take a look at the Fords. It only goes back to '90 and the list doesn't contain a single DIESEL engine in the list!

Thats true its just a shame some of those vehicles would be considered clunkers and destroyed.

 

[geonc]

OK...Mel touched on some good points ...especially regarding destroying perfectly good sources of replacement parts

However...what sickens me is the ripple effects.... salvage yards that supply body shops with cost effective "original" parts for major/minor body damage repairs as opposed to "overseas" stamped tin......effectively forcing the salvage yard to become a "crush only" storage facility so they can send the crushed vehicles across the pond to make new toasters

And killing any possible resource left to those of us with the ability to maintain our vehicles regardless of weather by choice [read hobby] or necessity [read can't afford new] or any combination of the two.....

Will major manufacturers be forced to only target a 5 to 8 year window---knowing the gooberment may possibly, somehow get a law passed that forbids owning an "older" vehicle for daily driving?????

JUST one more freedom being taken from us in the name of change

Of course the "privileged few" elitists [read RICH] will still be able to drive their latest Barrett Jackson classic find

 

[Agnem]

I had dinner last night with a former co-worker who works at a Volvo dealership. He was telling me that crap they pour in the engine costs them $25 per car, and that they have to trash them as soon as they take them in. They had one person come back with buyers remorse and they wanted their trade back (this was the same day!).... too late! They had already ruined it. Now what? I smell a lawsuit. Not only that, but the dealers are on the hook for the government credit, and they have no idea when they are going to get paid. He too was concerned about the repo jobs that will be coming down the road. This whole thing is a major cluster from word one.

 

[Shadetreemechanic]

OK...Mel touched on some good points ...especially regarding destroying perfectly good sources of replacement parts

However...what sickens me is the ripple effects.... salvage yards that supply body shops with cost effective "original" parts for major/minor body damage repairs as opposed to "overseas" stamped tin......effectively forcing the salvage yard to become a "crush only" storage facility so they can send the crushed vehicles across the pond to make new toasters

And killing any possible resource left to those of us with the ability to maintain our vehicles regardless of weather by choice [read hobby] or necessity [read can't afford new] or any combination of the two.....

Will major manufacturers be forced to only target a 5 to 8 year window---knowing the gooberment may possibly, somehow get a law passed that forbids owning an "older" vehicle for daily driving?????

JUST one more freedom being taken from us in the name of change

Of course the "privileged few" elitists [read RICH] will still be able to drive their latest Barrett Jackson classic find

I read an interview with a salvage operator. According to her they are only scrapping the motor, the rest of the car will be parted out. I think its an absolute waste to destroy the motor, but the law is not requiring that the rest of the car be crushed. I think alot are being crushed due to lack of storage.

 

[Darrin Tosh]

I read an interview with a salvage operator. According to her they are only scrapping the motor, the rest of the car will be parted out. I think its an absolute waste to destroy the motor, but the law is not requiring that the rest of the car be crushed. I think alot are being crushed due to lack of storage.

The Law is requiring that the car be crushed within 6 months.

 

[hesutton]

DONT GO TO THE CARS.GOV SITE!!!!

EDIT: OPPSS!! DAVID BEAT ME TO IT.

Here is another very sinister motive for the government to generate intrest in the cash for clunkers program. I'm very worried about what kind of people are running our nation. The work "Evil" comes to mind.

Apparently if you log onto the CARS (cash for cluckers) site, you agree that your computer is now government property! It can be accessed and used for whatever purpose they see fit!

I'm getting a little tired of our new Socialist leader.

Check out this FOX News clip on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-0RJTfRSAo

Heath