Alleged IDI Turbo with "C" as 8th digit in VIN??

[MtnHaul]

https://images.craigslist.org/00I0I_7OmmoU9zOw0_600x450.jpg


https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/d/gresham-1993-ford-250-supercab-73-idi/6851841613.html

Nice clean truck with low miles but the VIN tag doesn't add up for an IDI or IDI turbo unless I'm reading it wrong. I thought the 8th digit should be a "K" but this one has a "C" instead and the 11th digit is a "K". Perhaps an IDI was swapped in? I haven't contacted the seller yet and would rather make sense of the VIN tag before doing so. Any help appreciated.

 

[Randy Bush]

You are reading it wrong , Vin position 8 with a C is a IDIT

 

[MtnHaul]

That is contrary to every single other bit of info I have found online. Just reading other people's info but this post from here indicates "K" for the IDI turbo engine

https://www.oilburners.net/threads/buying-a-idi-turbo-what-do-i-look-for.82791/page-2


https://www.oilburners.net/threads/decided-to-rebuild-the-idi.72753/page-2

Still a bit confused.

 

[Randy Bush]

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[Randy Bush]

The picture I posted is for 1993 model, Looking father into it K vin is for a 1994 IDIT. hope this helps.

 

[YJMike92]

Looks like a nice truck.

 

[nostrokes]

93 was a year when the idit was an option. A na Vin was m. In 94 I believe the idit was k and the powerstroke was f. Did a Vin decoder search of this one and it was correct.
I would ask the seller for a pic of the engine, if the intake looks like this pic it's a factory turbo

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[gandalf]

I'll contribute a bit here, probably just to confuse us all. I've had this on my hard drive a long time. No idea where I got it, though it looks as though it might have been posted in a forum. Looking over this list, my immediate question would be whether this is a factory turbo? I seem to recall vaguely that the factory turbo started in '94.

EDIT: According to Nostrokes the turbo was optional in '93.
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I was able to get a hold of a Ford Truck Vehicle Identification Number Decoder for 1987 to 1996 and found out my truck decodes to a 1 Ton HD. Here is the decoder for anyone that might want it.

1987 to 1996
Positions 1, 2 & 3-Country Code:
1FT Ford Motor Company USA
2FT Ford Motor Company Canada

Position 4-GVW Class Code:
C 4001 to 5000 pounds F150
D 5001 to 6000 pounds F150
E 6001 to 7000 pounds F150 & F250
F 7001 to 8000 pounds F250
G 8001 to 8500 pounds F250
H 8501 to 9000 pounds F250 HD & F350
J 9001 to 10000 pounds F350

Positions 5, 6 & 7-Series Code:
F15 F150 2 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X15 F150 2 Wheel Drive Ext Cab
F14 F150 4 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X14 F150 4 Wheel Drive Ext Cab
F25 F250 2 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X25 F250 2 Wheel Drive Ext Cab
F26 F250 4 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X26 F250 4 Wheel Drive Ext Cab

Position 8-Engine Code:
Y 6 cy 4.9 Gas EFI 87 to 93
Y 6 cy 4.9 Gas MFI 94 to 96
N 8 cy 5.0 Gas EFI 87 to 93
N 8 cy 5.0 Gas MFI 94 to 96
H 8 cy 5.8 Gas 4BBL 87
H 8 cy 5.8 Gas EFI 88 to 93
R 8 cy 5.8 Gas F150 Lt EFI 93
H 8 cy 5.8 Gas MFI 94 to 96
R 8 cy 5.8 Gas F150 Lt MFI 94 to 95
1 8 cy 6.9 Diesel IDI 87
M 8 cy 7.3 Diesel IDI 88 to 94
F 8 cy 7.3 Turbo-Diesel TPS 94 to 96
K 8 cy 7.3 Turbo-Diesel TPS 94
L 8 cy 7.5 Gas 4BBL 87
G 8 cy 7.5 Gas EFI 88 to 93
G 8 cy 7.5 Gas MFI 94 to 96

Position 9-Model Year Code:
H-87, J-88, K-89, L-90, M-91
N-92, P-93, R-94, S-95, T-96

Position 10-Assembly Plant Code:
C-Oakville, Ontario Canada
H-Lorain, OH / N-Norfolk, VA
K-Kansas, MO / P-St. Paul, MN
L-Wayne, MI / U-Louisville, KY

Remaining Numbers-Sequence of Assembly:





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F14 - F150, Regular Cab, 4x4
x14 - F150, SuperCab, 4x4
F15 - F140, Regular Cab, 4x2
X15 - F150, SuperCab, 4x2
F25 - F250, Regular Cab, 4x2
X25 - F250, SuperCab, 4x2
F26 - F250, RegularCab, 4x4
X26 - F250, SuperCab, 4x4
F35 - F350, Regular Cab, 4x2
X35 - F350, SuperCab, 4x2
W36 - F350, Crew Cab, 4x2
F37 - F350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2
F36 - F350, Regular Cab, 4x4
W36 - F350, Crew Cab, 4x4
F38 - F350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4
F47 - F-Super Duty, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2
F53 - F-Super Duty, RV Stripped Chassis, 4x2
F59 - F-Super Duty, Commercial Basic Stripped Chassis, 4x2

The ninth VIN position is a government assigned, computer-generated check digit.

The tenth VIN position is the Vehicle Model Year.
K - 1989
L - 1990
M - 1991
N - 1992
P - 1993
R - 1994
S - 1995
T - 1996

The elenth VIN position is the Assembly Plant Code.
C - Ontario Truck: Oakville, Ontario
E - Kentucky Truck: Jefferson, Kentucky
H - Lorain: Lorain, Ohio
K - Kansas City: Claymoco, Missouri
L - Michigan Truck: Wayne, Michigan
N - Norfolk: Norfolk, Virginia
P - Twin Cities: St. Paul, Minnesota
U - Louisville: Louisville, Kentucky
V - Kentuck Truck: Jefferson, Kentucky

 

[MtnHaul]

My mistake. Odd, I guess all the other factory IDI turbos I have seen just happened to be '94s. Surprised I hadn't noticed this before now.

 

[Randy Bush]

I'll contribute a bit here, probably just to confuse us all. I've had this on my hard drive a long time. No idea where I got it, though it looks as though it might have been posted in a forum. Looking over this list, my immediate question would be whether this is a factory turbo? I seem to recall vaguely that the factory turbo started in '94.

EDIT: According to Nostrokes the turbo was optional in '93.
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I was able to get a hold of a Ford Truck Vehicle Identification Number Decoder for 1987 to 1996 and found out my truck decodes to a 1 Ton HD. Here is the decoder for anyone that might want it.

1987 to 1996
Positions 1, 2 & 3-Country Code:
1FT Ford Motor Company USA
2FT Ford Motor Company Canada

Position 4-GVW Class Code:
C 4001 to 5000 pounds F150
D 5001 to 6000 pounds F150
E 6001 to 7000 pounds F150 & F250
F 7001 to 8000 pounds F250
G 8001 to 8500 pounds F250
H 8501 to 9000 pounds F250 HD & F350
J 9001 to 10000 pounds F350

Positions 5, 6 & 7-Series Code:
F15 F150 2 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X15 F150 2 Wheel Drive Ext Cab
F14 F150 4 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X14 F150 4 Wheel Drive Ext Cab
F25 F250 2 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X25 F250 2 Wheel Drive Ext Cab
F26 F250 4 Wheel Drive Reg Cab
X26 F250 4 Wheel Drive Ext Cab

Position 8-Engine Code:
Y 6 cy 4.9 Gas EFI 87 to 93
Y 6 cy 4.9 Gas MFI 94 to 96
N 8 cy 5.0 Gas EFI 87 to 93
N 8 cy 5.0 Gas MFI 94 to 96
H 8 cy 5.8 Gas 4BBL 87
H 8 cy 5.8 Gas EFI 88 to 93
R 8 cy 5.8 Gas F150 Lt EFI 93
H 8 cy 5.8 Gas MFI 94 to 96
R 8 cy 5.8 Gas F150 Lt MFI 94 to 95
1 8 cy 6.9 Diesel IDI 87
M 8 cy 7.3 Diesel IDI 88 to 94
F 8 cy 7.3 Turbo-Diesel TPS 94 to 96
K 8 cy 7.3 Turbo-Diesel TPS 94
L 8 cy 7.5 Gas 4BBL 87
G 8 cy 7.5 Gas EFI 88 to 93
G 8 cy 7.5 Gas MFI 94 to 96

Position 9-Model Year Code:
H-87, J-88, K-89, L-90, M-91
N-92, P-93, R-94, S-95, T-96

Position 10-Assembly Plant Code:
C-Oakville, Ontario Canada
H-Lorain, OH / N-Norfolk, VA
K-Kansas, MO / P-St. Paul, MN
L-Wayne, MI / U-Louisville, KY

Remaining Numbers-Sequence of Assembly:





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F14 - F150, Regular Cab, 4x4
x14 - F150, SuperCab, 4x4
F15 - F140, Regular Cab, 4x2
X15 - F150, SuperCab, 4x2
F25 - F250, Regular Cab, 4x2
X25 - F250, SuperCab, 4x2
F26 - F250, RegularCab, 4x4
X26 - F250, SuperCab, 4x4
F35 - F350, Regular Cab, 4x2
X35 - F350, SuperCab, 4x2
W36 - F350, Crew Cab, 4x2
F37 - F350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2
F36 - F350, Regular Cab, 4x4
W36 - F350, Crew Cab, 4x4
F38 - F350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4
F47 - F-Super Duty, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2
F53 - F-Super Duty, RV Stripped Chassis, 4x2
F59 - F-Super Duty, Commercial Basic Stripped Chassis, 4x2

The ninth VIN position is a government assigned, computer-generated check digit.

The tenth VIN position is the Vehicle Model Year.
K - 1989
L - 1990
M - 1991
N - 1992
P - 1993
R - 1994
S - 1995
T - 1996

The elenth VIN position is the Assembly Plant Code.
C - Ontario Truck: Oakville, Ontario
E - Kentucky Truck: Jefferson, Kentucky
H - Lorain: Lorain, Ohio
K - Kansas City: Claymoco, Missouri
L - Michigan Truck: Wayne, Michigan
N - Norfolk: Norfolk, Virginia
P - Twin Cities: St. Paul, Minnesota
U - Louisville: Louisville, Kentucky
V - Kentuck Truck: Jefferson, Kentucky

This list is not complete in not showing that in fact in 1993 the factory IDIT 8th position should be a C. The information I posted comes from a 1993 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel Ford service Manual Supplement.

 

[nostrokes]

My mistake. Odd, I guess all the other factory IDI turbos I have seen just happened to be '94s. Surprised I hadn't noticed this before now.

No mistake with all the variables it's easy to get confused and second guess things. I ran into the same thing a few years ago. Was looking at a 93 the seller claimed was a factory idit, I was absolutely sure the turbo didn't come out till 94. Did hours of looking and found the turbo option in 93.

 

[square1]

This list is not complete in not showing that in fact in 1993 the factory IDIT 8th position should be a C. The information I posted comes from a 1993 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel Ford service Manual Supplement.

I would agree. Figured this out while searching for an air conditioning hose / manifold. FTR, the 94 IDI factory turbo use the 92-93 non-aspiated / non turbo engine code "C" hoses. The 94 hoses appear tp be identical except for the connection for the high pressure switch at the compresser outlet. I didn't do a side by side physical comparison so this info is worth what you paid for it.

 

[aggiediesel01]

If you really care about it being a turbo motor be sure to look at the engine serial as well. Many of these trucks have had the engines rebuilt/replaced by now and many didn't get IDIT blocks and internals put back under the factory turbo kit. I got a IDIT vin correct truck a couple years ago only to find out that at some point had a N/A long block put in; it even had the correct oil feed port size for the turbo but the heads, rods and pistons were all N/A. At least I got an extra turbo kit out of the deal but otherwise I'm still a little upset I didn't check thoroughly enough. Be aware if you care.

 

[square1]

I would agree. Figured this out while searching for an air conditioning hose / manifold. FTR, the 94 IDI factory turbo use the 92-93 non-aspiated / non turbo engine code "C" hoses. The 94 hoses appear tp be identical except for the connection for the high pressure switch at the compresser outlet. I didn't do a side by side physical comparison so this info is worth what you paid for it.

I need to post a correction, the 94 factory tutbo air conditioning manifold / hose IS NOT the same as the 92-94 non-aspirated. The correct hose part # is pictuted below

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