6.9 Superduty

Discussion in '6.9L IH & 7.3L IDI Diesels' started by Mikey89014, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. Mikey89014

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    I have a 2001 regular cab 4x4 superduty will a junk 5.4 that i'm going to swap my 6.9 turbo IDI into. However, i would to know if someone has experience with the 4R100 electronics. I have the diesel version 4R100 thats going in. Will it shift properly , all else being equal, except the engine, or will i need a sensor off the gas engine to make it shift?
     
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    Not sure but I can say that a 4R100 is being placed behind a 92 6.9 diesel because of horsepower is getting harder to put to the ground.
     
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    I was going to go with an E4OD, but learned it's missing 2 sensors on the transmission itself, and will not work at all with the PCM. Thanks
     
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    To put an idi into that truck you will have to have a standalone controller if you want an e4od/4r100.
     
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    What he said.
     
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    That's what i hoping not to hear . Is it only Baumann ?
     
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    I hope you do not have inspections in your area. It won't pass with that older engine in that late truck. Most places wouldn't notice, and I assume you have a place that would not, or live in a place that doesn't even look.
     
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    There are a a few different standalone units now, or you could always use a factory idi/E4OD tcu/harness with the 4R100.

    Good luck with emissions, you will not ever get that to pass, you can do a newer engine in an older vehicle, but not the other way around.
     
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    It's illegal in Tx, but they don't pop the hood so its really no biggie.
     
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    Um... this is the first that I've heard a 4R100 will work with an IDI. Same reason a ZF-6 doesn't just bolt up. Did I slip into a parrallel universe where this is no longer true?
     
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    The ZF6 bolts directly to the block on a psd, the 4R100 still uses the same spacer setup as the E4OD/ZF5 ones, so, it will bolt up to an idi. The torque converter of course will have to be an idi unit. The OBS PSD guys are using them pretty much as a bolt in, the MLPS, shift rod and solenoid pack need to be swapped to E4OD ones and the 4R has extra sensors the E4 computer doesn't use, but it works just fine.
     
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    I'm not worried about emissions, the Tech said as long as it passes the emission test, and has the required emission devices for that year, i'm good. Also, about the E4OD ECU, I heard it will not work because the 4R100 has 2 extra sensors.. Somebody also said it should shift and work fine, but may need the RPM sensor connected , and to somehow wire in the MAF sensor to the IDI.. Basically every other sensor that it required to operate correctly is already on the transmission.. We will see.
     
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    You just plain old ignore the extra sensors on the 4R, the E4od computer has no want or need for them.
    Even if they test the truck as a diesel, a 6.9 will NEVER pass the test for a 7.3 psd.
     
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    Ive seen some smokin 7.3 PSD's that passed around here, they weren't clean either. I dont see a problem passing the smoke test as of now.
     
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    The 4R100 will bolt up to the IDI with no problems. Part of the swap will require a four hole flexplate and a four stud converter. A stand alone controller is a must.
     

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