1990's f250 stepside short bed ?

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The night moose? sounds mysterious; Really tho 1 hole for the? do tell. I like the idea of the D60 front axle and a heavy duty frame and no engine swap but I can find 150's for cheap$ around here so:dunno. Most cheapies have blown motors and trannies.
 

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i deff would not cut up a DRW for a project like this, unless it was cheap and i didnt have a use for it.
but putting a IDI in a 150 frame would require more fab work than a f2/350 with a rear end relocate.

This dually wasn't cut, it's factory 4x4 cab-chassis truck with its rear axle moved to where it needs to be to match the factory-shortbed wheel base and the tail of the frame chopped off. The bed is the quite rare '87 stepside bed, it's the '89-'86 all-steel tub with fiberglass fenders that match the new (for back then) bricknose wheel openings in shape, it's a one year only wonder. To make it work with the DRW axle it got cut in half length-wise and widened a few inches. It's exactly what I'd do to end up with the strongest frame and axles available (short of F-Superduty stuff) and still look almost factory. If you don't like/want a DRW stepside like this you're still best off start with a cab-chassis truck, then just pull the rear duals off in favor of singles and for the front either swap in SRW hubs (D50 hubs are cheap and plentiful) or if it's still 2wd drop in whatever single-wheel front axle you want. The reason for using the cab-chassis truck as opposed to a regular pickup-box one is the shape of the frame - the cab-chassis is mostly straight from the cab all the way to the rear and so you can move the rear axle wherever you want it, the pickups have the weirdest 3-level mess and unless you run a lift you may not have good clearance between the frame and the rear axle once the axle is slid forward.

The Night Moose was a gasser stepside F-150. Drill one hole, and drop an IDI in it, and your done. :) Those 8 lugs are only needed to make it look pretty.
Obviously depends on what you're doing with the truck. Steep approach/departure angles tend to call for tall tires, and there's only so much torque the D44 front and the 8.8" or the older 9" axle shafts can handle, especially once a low range of the t-case comes into play. If MPG is the goal as I recall was with the Night Moose, then halfton axles and suspension and factory-sized tires all the way, the bigger stuff is prohibitively heavy.
 

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Yep me too chopped is cut.:confused: but I see the point on the cab and chassis truck, straight frame rails would sure make it simple to slide that axle forward. . I am going to keep looking around for an IDI f350 4x4 truck with the D60 front and zf5. I have seen a few but none for very cheap. I see plenty of C and C rigs on ranches out here so that should't be too hard a combo to run down plus you can sell or scrap the bed. Then I can get started fabbing when my shop is complete.
 

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I just called this guy about a box,
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I need to know how wide the 61-66 rear axle was....IDIoit? I think it would look pretty cool on a bricknose if it is wide enough. And if not I could always spread it a bit with the welder.
 

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gonna be a lot longer than that before I get to using this bed, It's cheap so I might go for it anyway. I will check the interweb tonight and see If I can find it.
 

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Found it http://carnut.com/specs/rear.html looks about 4" narrower for the 60's trucks as compared to the 86 model which I assume is close to the late 80's and 90's trucks, I think I can work with that. My wife is going to love me buying a box for a truck I don't own :rotflmao gotta dream tho or whats the point.
 

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im confused.
I should have said "cut up", not just cut. To me cutting something up means more or less hacking and slashing and in the process destroying most of it. With the cab-chassis trucks this is not the case, frames are shortened and lengthened all day every day to accommodate different beds, it's not uncommon for a single truck to go thru several different wheelbases depending on the owner's particular needs at the time. More common with the bigger trucks, but seen it done on 1-tons as well.
 

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I should have said "cut up", not just cut. To me cutting something up means more or less hacking and slashing and in the process destroying most of it. With the cab-chassis trucks this is not the case, frames are shortened and lengthened all day every day to accommodate different beds, it's not uncommon for a single truck to go thru several different wheelbases depending on the owner's particular needs at the time. More common with the bigger trucks, but seen it done on 1-tons as well.

i know exactly what you're talkin about ;)
to me, cut.... is cut...
no matter how ya slice it

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i do not like that.
maybe its the rims that kill it for me.... or the colors.
my son as a 62 step, all stock.
I-6 with a 4 speed.
i like this one better.

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A bit off subject, but what is the story on the Jeep Truck/Wagoneer, Over there --->???????
 

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it was on my parents property when they bought it.
we had a family shindig one weekend,(40+ ppl)
and the boys decided to break every piece of glass out of it.

i dusted her off, and brought her home.
decided she was too much work.
it went to my cousin who has 2 of em'
not sure of its fate now, most likely scavanged.
engine turned over, had compression, but the starter, carb and waterpump were fried.
shoulda kept the hood
 

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I like the old full size Heeps..... We looked at a 79 Cherokee Chief, back in the day..... wish Dad had bought it.......

There was a completely clean White mid 80's Grand Wagoneer sitting at a local shop..... no rust, looked like it just rolled out of the dealer..... even had the "lovely" woodgrain on the sides....... The only thing it was missing was a For Sale sign in the window..........
 

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