Champion 3 core vs 4 core radiators.

laserjock · Jul 16, 2018

I know a lot of us have bought and used the champion Al radiators. My question is this. Has anyone had both a 3 core and a 4core in the same truck and does the 4 core cool better than the 3? Unfortunately, I bought mine just before the 4 core came out. I’m not sure how the fins per inch compare but I’m looking into that.

I’m still having cooling issues. I don’t think the radiator is the problem because I am 99% sure it’s not heat soaking because it cools so quickly after I get off the fuel. Just starting some homework to cover my bases. With the water cooled turbo also dumping heat into the system, I’m starting to rethink some things. I’ve got plenty of power and EGTs are totally manageable. Water temperature is my current limitation.

ABNORDY · Jul 16, 2018

laserjock said:
I know a lot of us have bought and used the champion Al radiators. My question is this. Has anyone had both a 3 core and a 4core in the same truck and does the 4 core cool better than the 3? Unfortunately, I bought mine just before the 4 core came out. I’m not sure how the fins per inch compare but I’m looking into that.

I’m still having cooling issues. I don’t think the radiator is the problem because I am 99% sure it’s not heat soaking because it cools so quickly after I get off the fuel. Just starting some homework to cover my bases. With the water cooled turbo also dumping heat into the system, I’m starting to rethink some things. I’ve got plenty of power and EGTs are totally manageable. Water temperature is my current limitation.

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tbrumm · Jul 16, 2018

Mike, I really didn't notice any marked cooling difference between the 3 row and 4 row Champions in the short time I had the 4 rows in my truck. It was also winter and I never towed heavy with them. @catbird7 has a 4 row core in his truck I believe. I personally wouldn't buy another 4 row core after having gone through a couple of them, with the 3 row holding up fine.

laserjock · Jul 16, 2018

tbrumm said:
Mike, I really didn't notice any marked cooling difference between the 3 row and 4 row Champions in the short time I had the 4 rows in my truck. It was also winter and I never towed heavy with them. @catbird7 has a 4 row core in his truck I believe. I personally wouldn't buy another 4 row core after having gone through a couple of them, with the 3 row holding up fine.

I just read part of your saga. I need to go home and look mine over. I keep seeing mystery coolant drips (just a couple) on the floor that I can’t seem to locate.

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catbird7 · Jul 16, 2018

Sharp looking rad and cool awesome when they don't leak! Fingers crossed, I've had zero problems with the replacement installed in Feb this year. Also add I had 4-core rad installed with bad fan clutch and it would over heat when climbing mountains or hung-up in traffic with AC on. Changed clutch and works perfect. I recall you already changed yours however if you have another clutch laying around it may be worth a try. While customer service was great, given my experience with Champion as well as listening to others, I'd consider going back to stock or Mishimoto if buying new again.

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dieseltruck · Jul 16, 2018

This is from Cummins Forum

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/9...469535-4-row-all-metal-made-usa-radiator.html

https://radiatorsupplyhouse.com/products/icebox-performance/

laserjock · Jul 16, 2018

dieseltruck said:
This is from Cummins Forum

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/9...469535-4-row-all-metal-made-usa-radiator.html

https://radiatorsupplyhouse.com/products/icebox-performance/

First of all what are you doing on a Cummins forum??

Second those look awesome and expensive. Holy cow!

dieseltruck · Jul 16, 2018

laserjock said:
First of all what are you doing on a Cummins forum??

Second those look awesome and expensive. Holy cow!

Yea, I know I'm a turn coat. :cool

I was thinking about bring it down to the rally, but I thought I'd get egged! lol

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Thewespaul · Jul 16, 2018

They are great engines, in crap trucks...

laserjock · Jul 16, 2018

dieseltruck said:
Yea, I know I'm a turn coat.
I was thinking about bring it down to the rally, but I thought I'd get egged! lol

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Nah! Just a little gentle ribbing. LOL

You should have come on down. It was a good time and not too far from you either.

That’s a nice looking truck btw. I think I’ve seen you with about everything except a Duramax now anyway. LOL

Nothing wrong with sampling a variety of cuisine.

Zephyr · Jul 16, 2018

Thewespaul said:
They are great engines, in crap trucks...

Yep, I own one, anyone want to buy it so I can buy a new F350?

dieseltruck · Jul 17, 2018

laserjock said:
Nah! Just a little gentle ribbing.

You should have come on down. It was a good time and not too far from you either.

That’s a nice looking truck btw. I think I’ve seen you with about everything except a Duramax now anyway.

Nothing wrong with sampling a variety of cuisine.

Well!

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I've bought this about 4 years ago, I have it for sale now, It's an 06 with just over 61k miles on it!

laserjock · Jul 17, 2018

Okay.... you change trucks about as often as I change underwear.

LOL

Whatever happened to the “IDI” that sounded funny you had imported??

LOL

dieseltruck · Jul 17, 2018

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laserjock said:
Okay.... you change trucks about as often as I change underwear.

Whatever happened to the “IDI” that sounded funny you had imported??

You mean this one?

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laserjock · Jul 17, 2018

When did you get that one??? No the one I was talking about was the Powerstroke. I think it was a powerstroke that was supposed to be an idi.

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