Hydro-idi
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They are good trucks & engines. Night & day power having 400hp/800ft lbs torque. Only problem is the outrageous price tags for a newer rig.
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They are good trucks & engines. Night & day power having 400hp/800ft lbs torque. Only problem is the outrageous price tags for a newer rig.
I have owned the 4.8, the 5.3 and the 6.0 and they are rock solid. The wife has a 2015 Z71 4wd with almost every available option, and the new 4.3 V6. Honestly, it has as much power as my old 4.8 had, and it is a comfortable ride too.
I am looking for 2001 or 2002 Yukon XL Denali AWD, I have a love affair with the 6.0 liter, and my old bones want the supreme ride the Denali gives.
jwalterus
Made in America
You should find one with a 8.1
Real world use for the dealerships I was doing maintenance for, the 8.1 truck got the exact same mileage as the 6.0 truck.
Except when towing, 12k worth of trailer and man lift, and the 8.1 got 8mpg, the 6.0 got 5mpg on the highway doing 70 from Minot to Williston.
Both had 4.10 gears, the 8.1 was an '03, the 6.0 was a '10.
The Denali has 3:73’s and only had the 6.0 in it for the years I am interested in. It will be highway use for my trips to the mountains several times a year. The AWD for snow and the air ride for my old body and the comfort it wants.
My 2003 2500HD with the 6.0 and 4:10’s will be used for work, as it always has been. It has been an awesome truck, now about to turn over 314,000 miles. The heaviest it is asked to pull is my 18’ flat bed with my tractor on it. It doesn’t struggle with that load.
My 2003 2500HD with the 6.0 and 4:10’s will be used for work, as it always has been. It has been an awesome truck, now about to turn over 314,000 miles. The heaviest it is asked to pull is my 18’ flat bed with my tractor on it. It doesn’t struggle with that load.
79jasper
Chickenhawk
But to be fair, the 4.8's were gutless, imo. Lol
I can't believe they put the 8.1 in some of the caddy cars.
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The 4.8 wasn’t really gutless with the 5 speed, Gibson headers and exhaust and a tune. 
In stock form with the auto, it certainly was.
It was the truck I regret getting rid of the most, RCSB, lifted 4x4 sitting on 34’s. It rode like a tank but was very peppy.
I do agree with the OP about the newer Ford’s, I watched my son in laws 2007 literally fall apart on him.
In stock form with the auto, it certainly was.It was the truck I regret getting rid of the most, RCSB, lifted 4x4 sitting on 34’s. It rode like a tank but was very peppy.
I do agree with the OP about the newer Ford’s, I watched my son in laws 2007 literally fall apart on him.
You should find one with a 8.1
Real world use for the dealerships I was doing maintenance for, the 8.1 truck got the exact same mileage as the 6.0 truck.
Except when towing, 12k worth of trailer and man lift, and the 8.1 got 8mpg, the 6.0 got 5mpg on the highway doing 70 from Minot to Williston.
Both had 4.10 gears, the 8.1 was an '03, the 6.0 was a '10.
I actually kow someone whe seriously regretted selling his 8.1 for a newer 6.0 for that exact reason. He's a contractor, and hauling a skid-steer bobcat around makes quite a difference in mileage.
Garbage_Mechan
Garbage Mechanic
Funny thing the 3 most reliable trucks ever have been the 3 in my sig. Wife's daily driving and hauling horses with the 91 right now.
jwalterus
Made in America
I went to Ford last year (was still working for the dealership family that included Chevy in Minot and Dodge in Williston at the time
), and decided I'd let them know what I wanted.Financing isn't an issue if I decide I want a new vehicle.
My requirements were simple (or so I thought):
1/2 ton, V8, extended cab, 4wd, cloth seats, block heater, remote start, class IV/V hitch
And now we get into the things they couldn't do with those...
8' bed, no factory radio, 2-tone paint with blue and white, sliding rear window, vinyl flooring, and steel wheels
The funny thing is though, after they said they couldn't do it, I talked to one of the salesmen at the Dodge dealership in Williston, and he asked me "Do you want white on blue or blue on white?"
I couldn't do it though, I hate the way the newer Dodge pickups look......
Wait, you asked them to sell it to you without a radio?
Anyways, on Ford's website I can build pretty close to what you wanted.
1/2 Ton - Check
V8 - Check
Extended Cab - Check
4WD - Check
Cloth Seaths - Check
Block Heater - Can't find, but i know my 15 XLT has it
Remote Start - Check
Class IV Hitch - Check
8' Bed - Check
No factory radio - Gotta at least have the basic radio
2 tone paint - admittedly their options are very limited. Got blue and gray though
Sliding rear window - check
vinyl flooring - check
steel wheels - only available on XL, but had to go XLT for some of the other stuff. You could probably get the dealer to swap them with another truck though.
Anyways, on Ford's website I can build pretty close to what you wanted.
1/2 Ton - Check
V8 - Check
Extended Cab - Check
4WD - Check
Cloth Seaths - Check
Block Heater - Can't find, but i know my 15 XLT has it
Remote Start - Check
Class IV Hitch - Check
8' Bed - Check
No factory radio - Gotta at least have the basic radio
2 tone paint - admittedly their options are very limited. Got blue and gray though
Sliding rear window - check
vinyl flooring - check
steel wheels - only available on XL, but had to go XLT for some of the other stuff. You could probably get the dealer to swap them with another truck though.
mblaney
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I have debated going new, there really isn't anything that I do now that an F150 couldn't handle... biggest regular chore is towing a 3500 pound boat - hell my wife's caravan will pull that. The problem is I really really enjoy the uniqueness of my old truck; every day it gets more special. Mine is very well maintained - I figure spending $1000 to fix something right, or upgrading parts, is still a lot cheaper than a new one. Anything that breaks on mine is peripheral crap like belt tensioner, brake caliper anyway.
I must admit that this week I have built and priced (online) an F250 diesel, and a 2500 with the Cummins I just stick to my story that I will consider a new truck when this one is paid for
- hell my wife's caravan will pull that. The problem is I really really enjoy the uniqueness of my old truck; every day it gets more special. Mine is very well maintained - I figure spending $1000 to fix something right, or upgrading parts, is still a lot cheaper than a new one. Anything that breaks on mine is peripheral crap like belt tensioner, brake caliper anyway.I must admit that this week I have built and priced (online) an F250 diesel, and a 2500 with the Cummins
I just stick to my story that I will consider a new truck when this one is paid for
One of the secrets to building wealth is the never buy a new vehicle, you lose money the minute you drive it off the lot. Once you have a little wealth still avoid buying a new vehicle, it is still an instant loss.
I prefer older vehicles and the wife prefers newer ones. She also never buys new, but a year or two old is good enough. I know whenever I do fine the percect Yukon XL Denali I will have to fix some things, it is acceptible to me, I have been doing it for decades.
My best friend just bought a 2017 3500HD Duramax, CCLB SRW Denali 4WD, fully loaded for $52k, it had something like 6,000 miles on it, he gave 52k (IIRC) for a 70k truck. In my world it was still too much but he is a doctor and to him it was a bargain, and compared to one with zero miles on it, it was. The guy who bought it with zero miles traded it back for the same truck as a dually, he lost 20k+ instantly, he probably didn’t care but what a waste.
I prefer older vehicles and the wife prefers newer ones. She also never buys new, but a year or two old is good enough. I know whenever I do fine the percect Yukon XL Denali I will have to fix some things, it is acceptible to me, I have been doing it for decades.
My best friend just bought a 2017 3500HD Duramax, CCLB SRW Denali 4WD, fully loaded for $52k, it had something like 6,000 miles on it, he gave 52k (IIRC) for a 70k truck. In my world it was still too much but he is a doctor and to him it was a bargain, and compared to one with zero miles on it, it was. The guy who bought it with zero miles traded it back for the same truck as a dually, he lost 20k+ instantly, he probably didn’t care but what a waste.
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jwalterus
Made in America
Yep.
Not uncommon, if you know you aren't leaving the factory radio, why spend the extra money on it?
They just don't do it on the trucks anymore.
Hydro-idi
Full Access Member
Any why would they? That would be like me asking them to leave the stock muffler & air intake off for a discount price because I want to put a performance system in it. Dealerships have to draw the line somewhere...
