High Cost of Diesel Fuel

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Ramprat said:
I'm with ya and understand exactly where you are coming from. We also get the veterans exemption here on property taxes and it helps & our home mortgage ain't near near 300K. ****, Uncle Sam gives me a check (thanks guys) and so does the VA, (thanks again).
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Just a few blocks from here a new development is going in where town homes are running 300K.
Can't believe how the price of a home has gone through the roof. We were stupid & did not purchase a home right away.
Rampy,
Yep, the VA pays me also, I'm 100% service connected, wounded twice in Vietnam (66'-67') and Social Security helps but I'd much rather be working. Worked in the plumbing business until my body gave out. Still paying the price of the war.

If I would have bought my house when I came back from the Nam it would have cost $18k but I waited a few years and paid $34k and today it's worth $150k. :thumbsup: In California it would be worth $350k. I was out there a few years ago and did some comparison shopping, man I wish I could move my house out there just so I could sell it! :D Who can afford 300k? Maybe George C. can but I certainly can't! (That wasn't nice!)

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Ramprat said:
. ****, Uncle Sam gives me a check (thanks guys) and so does the VA, (thanks again)

Rampy and Gar,

Thank you!

No need to thank us. ;Sweet
 

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If you really want to try to do something about the rising fuel prices contact your state and federal representatives and let them know that you are unhappy and want something done. Tell them to stop paying so much attention to the oil company lobbyists and more attention to us, the people who vote for them.


I sent my letter to all my Representatives and got a reply within 48 hours. It doesn't take an overwhelming number of complaints to get their attention.

Great post y2kpsd

heres my response to our great representitives in dc :yell:

It is time for our representatives to act on the fuel pricing structure in this nation. At a time when oil companies are recording record profits at out expense, we need to have someone in our corner and that someone is YOU Mr. Smith.

I am a Republican in registry, I have voted for you in every election because I feel that you have always put us the general population ahead of special interest groups. I expect some help when I am being unfairly targeted by the major oil companies.

My thoughts on increase in diesel fuel pricing. The plain and simple fact is that diesel is what drives our nation. When you think about it. Almost any piece of freight that is hauled anywhere by any means uses diesel. It's a target rich fuel. Family's who drive gasoline powered cars; may decide that the cost of fuel is too much for them so they decided to stay home from their summer vacation. But with diesel fuel your target audience doesn't have that option; they must continue to haul the freight and those that haul the freight will just pass the cost onto us the consumer.

To have the cost of diesel fuel be in some places .50 higher than premium gasoline is absolutely ludicrous. Just the fact that diesel is a by-product of the gasoline manufacturing process and is far less expensive to make, should have raised alarms with our representives. This tells me that the oil companies feel we Americans are to ignorant to know what we are doing and that they can get away with anything. When Rockefeller tried this in the early years of our conversion to fossil fuels, the Congress passed the Anti-Trust laws for its constituents. What Mr. Smith can you do for the people that have elected you?

Mr. Smith please look into this blatant slap in the face by not only our own oil companies, but by the foreign oil companies as well.

Please uphold the traditions of our Oregon Congressmen and Senators of the past and act in the best interest of your constituents.
 

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Ramprat said:
Personally while I hate the high price of fuel, it's cheaper here than in Canada, Japan or Europe.
Can't speak for Canada or Japan, but IIRC most of the reason fuel's more expensive in Europe is in taxation. The proceeds from those taxes in turn go into, among other things, health care. Without getting into a debate on the merits and detriments of "socialized health care", I don't know that the difference is between how much an average European pays for fuel per year vs how much an average American pays for fuel AND health insurance in a year, but I would imagine that it isn't too large of a difference.

To me, that makes the "fuel's more expensive in Europe, so we don't have a right to whine" argument a moot point, but maybe I'm missing something in the equation.

I still think that the core issue is that we need to get off our dependence on petroleum. Hydrogen may be a pipe dream, but biodiesel's feasible RIGHT NOW...my dream is to see bio-D begin large-scale production. I don't see why, with a concentrated effort, it couldn't supplant dino-diesel altogether before too long...

Also, I don't think that $300K is a slum house in California. More like, $500K's a slum house, and $300K will get you a double-wide... :rolleyes:
 

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The Warden said:
To me, that makes the "fuel's more expensive in Europe, so we don't have a right to whine" argument a moot point,
Like I said before, I could not care less how much they pay in Europe. I care how much it costs right here in the US!

The Warden said:
biodiesel's feasible RIGHT NOW...my dream is to see bio-D begin large-scale production.
So would I, but would the boys in Washington let it happen? :Sly I mean if they don't have their fingers in the pie....

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Also, I don't think that $300K is a slum house in California. More like, $500K's a slum house, and $300K will get you a double-wide... :rolleyes:
You are joking, aren't you? ;Really

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Like I said before, I could not care less how much they pay in Europe. I care how much it costs right here in the US!
I actually agree with you on that point. I just figured that Rampy's argument was worth disproving ;) I would have been better off looking for printed evidence to support what I was saying, but didn't want to take the time...too many other things to do...

So would I, but would the boys in Washington let it happen? :Sly I mean if they don't have their fingers in the pie....
One can dream, eh? Besides, the more the general public gets educated about diesels, the more of a chance there will be of them yelling loud enough for the gov't to hear them. I'm actually trying to put a diesel advocacy website together, but it'll be summer at least before it's up-and-running...

You are joking, aren't you? ;Really
Not by too much...IIRC, Palo Alto (aka Yuppieville) is 2nd behind NYC in terms of per-acre land value in a U.S. city, and I think the Bay Area as a whole is the most expensive region to live in in the U.S. :(

One more year 'till I'm done with school...
 

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I don't like the price of diesel either at 3.70 per US gallon CND funds the cheapest marked fuel I can get is 2.59 per US gal CND which has no road tax on it so I would save roughly dollar a litre.

We will have to see how high the price of regular gas gets this summer because right now its still pizzing me off that regular gas is cheaper then #2 diesel -cuss

The only good thing about it is I don't have to drive my truck much its a 10min drive to work get a company truck then 10 min drive home after work LOL

Going for a sunday drive that doesn't happen anymore or going out for dinner where I have to drive more than a hour round trip because thats 12 dollars in fuel.

I also think about the cost of fuel every time I fill up the tidy tank (slip) in the P/U I drive and each piece of equipment I fuel up takes atleast half a tank which is about 50 imperial gallons or 157.50 dollars CND. It does remind a person that these high fuel costs affect everything.
 

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I know that I don't have it as bad as many of you. Last night I paid $2.16 for diesel. I thought it was ridiculous, but when I read what folks in Cal are paying for it, I somehow don't feel so bad.
 

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Most we paid was in Neb, don't buy diesel in Neb unless ya can't avoid it.

Was $2.37 a gal at the FlyingJ :puke: :puke: :puke:
 

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I just paid 2.75/gallon and they tack on a .50 atm charge and you can only fill up to $48....just about 17 gallons...fricken rip off!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Swany said:
I just paid 2.75/gallon and they tack on a .50 atm charge and you can only fill up to $48....just about 17 gallons...fricken rip off!!!!!!!!!!!!


The price one pays for living in the peoples republic of kalifornia :angel: :angel: :angel:

Why do they limit ya to $48 :confused: :confused:
 

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Diesel was $2.86 a gallon at the Shell station on Fremont Blvd next to Hwy 1, Monterey, CA yesterday.

An off-brand store in town sold Diesel that's just as good as Shell's for $2.55 a gallon.

Tell me about greed. Just because Shell is next to the interstate they're taking advantage of people who don't know any better (visitors passing through) and charging $0.30 a gallon more.

Needless to say, I'll do all my filling in town at the station with the better prices.

Of course, I'll also be riding my bike to school. I FLAT OUT REFUSE to pay more than $2.30 a gallon for diesel and super unleaded. Oil companies want to be greedy?

- I'll stop driving my truck and the car.

- I'll cancel as much of my insurance on those vehicles as I can legally get away with. I'll tell the insurance company exactly WHY I'm not driving anymore.

- I'll let the auto industry make less cash because I've refused to pay for someone else's greed and their artificially-inflated prices.


Tired of being ***** at the pump. Tired of new trucks costing so much. Enough's enough and as consumers we just have to say, "NO!" or auto companies and oil companies are going to keep gouging. These are TRUCKS. They are not my kid's college eduction, they're not my 60 acres and a home. There is no equity at all in the ownership or use of these vehicles. I'll be darned if I'm going to subsidize someone else's greed and take the hit.

If more people saw it my way, the auto industry would change.

... had to vent... sorry.

Mike
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gonna start telecommuting more now, it's getting ridiculous!! hheynow was right regarding the $48 atm doo hickie.
 

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theshyguy said:
I could be worng but I thought Iraq has been pumping oil to the market. If not, what they they been doing with all that oil they've been pumping? And last I heard it was above prewar levels.

The reason oil is so high is because of China. The reason our(Americans) gas is so high is because the lack of refineries. We keep shutting em down but never replace them, therefore limiting the amount of gasoline and diesel we can make. It ****** me off so much that diesel is usually more expensive than gasoline now when its cheaper to make. I swear its only because they are tryong to offset the mileage benfit with a higher fuel price.

Time to buy more goods from China, eh?

God I hate being "forced" to buy stuff made there. Sending the American dollar to our number one future enemy makes sense, huh? I guess we have to do something to avert war with them for as long as possible...
 
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