Wally my new truck TLC

Stu Bailey

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Posts
336
Reaction score
281
Location
Idaho
Anyone have experience installing one of these FIPLs? Looks like orientation matters. The adapter has a flat lever that can either go above or below the marks in the FIPL. There is also three mounting holes for the whole bracket but I only have two screws so I’m hoping to get it lined up. I want to say after looking the stuff up as the adapter lever turns with the IP it creates different voltage signals which are then returned to the transmission for efficient shift points.

I want to say I could just install it and then drive and see how it shifts but getting at them star points to mount the unit is not the easiest access!
 

Attachments

  • 48692B8A-682B-4F7A-A46F-313C744D2815.jpeg
    48692B8A-682B-4F7A-A46F-313C744D2815.jpeg
    293 KB · Views: 9
  • 1BBA7EBC-29B6-436C-982D-A2227542D2C5.jpeg
    1BBA7EBC-29B6-436C-982D-A2227542D2C5.jpeg
    304.7 KB · Views: 9

IDIBRONCO

IDIBRONCO
Joined
Feb 5, 2010
Posts
12,323
Reaction score
11,043
Location
edmond, ks
Yes orientation does matter. Did you new pump happen to have a pin through it in this location? If it did, that's the same way that you mount this piece. The two screws go into/against the same holes that the pin went through.
 

Stu Bailey

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Posts
336
Reaction score
281
Location
Idaho
New pump didn’t have any pins through the Allen holes that the adapter fits over. Looks like there was 2 screws on the adapter: 1 actually thread into the IP fitting and locked the adapter in place, and the other was a set screw that just held it in place better.

I mounted the FIPL onto the adapter with the plate of the adapter going in at an angle so that the plate will open and close the FIPL. The FIPL is actually spring loaded I noticed… I turned the key to the on position and noticed the OD light was off on the gear selector so that was a plus.

I’m going to work more on the timing tomorrow, I just retarded the engine by turning the pump toward driver fender but that seemed to make things worse. I was under the impression I needed to retard it because the crankcase hash mark was at say, 1 o’clock from BTDC mark on plate that I’ll call 12. When I advanced it a couple degrees RPMs shot up like 500 or so.

Leads me to wonder though, would the proper flow of work be time engine, then adjust idle speed? Because that’s the only one that makes sense to me: time the truck then you should be close to proper idle rpm of 650 I’d say. From there you could hit idle screw and bring it in to the sweet spot.

Anyways, I’m spending the whole damn day out there tomorrow and I plan on having Wally on the road by Monday! Thanks for the chatter @IDIBRONCO you the man! :cheers:
 

Stu Bailey

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Posts
336
Reaction score
281
Location
Idaho
Well I got the pickup timed, it’s at 9 BTDC I’d say. Idle speed is about 100 rpm too high, my brakes still suck, OD light still won’t stop blinking after I installed the FIPL, and one of the injectors won’t stop leaking…
I can change the idle speed, figure out that FIPL thing, and I’m running out of time before we are supposed to take this truck to the Oregon coast for vacation. So I’ll probably take the truck to a shop for the brakes for my first time ever….

I’m confident I can fix all the other stuff, but the injector is what worries me. I only have one leaking and they are brand new, from one of our reputable dealers. I have a plethora of copper crush washer for the injectors so I went ahead and took it out, replaced the copper crush washer, applied anti-seize to the threads, and torqued it back down to 35ft lbs. it wasn’t leaking on idle but after I drove the truck for 15 minutes there was a pool of diesel at the GP.

I’d venture to say torque it down a little bit more and then see how it looks, but I’d the tightening down doesn’t work, is there another reason why these injectors aren’t sealing? It is not leaking from the return caps, fuel is coming up through the threads that way.

Once I get the injector leak figured out, the FIPL, and adjust my idle, I’m taking the truck in for the brakes. My timeline is short, headed to Oregon coast on June 12 so time is of the essence! Doesn’t help that I go to school online in the evenings, on top of working the full time job and having a family that needs their dadda!
 

Attachments

  • AB7B2962-3E2B-4A4A-B198-EC5120B36A96.jpeg
    AB7B2962-3E2B-4A4A-B198-EC5120B36A96.jpeg
    436.7 KB · Views: 10
  • 15DF785B-779B-41DE-AC88-93C8FE6A6ED4.jpeg
    15DF785B-779B-41DE-AC88-93C8FE6A6ED4.jpeg
    420.4 KB · Views: 10
  • E4325D6F-DCE1-4D8E-914F-391CA14DEAF8.jpeg
    E4325D6F-DCE1-4D8E-914F-391CA14DEAF8.jpeg
    363.5 KB · Views: 10

Cant Write

Full Access Member
Joined
Sep 29, 2021
Posts
866
Reaction score
720
Location
Placerville CO
What if you swapped 2 injectors since you have a plethora of crush washers and see if the problem moves.

Hard to see in the photos, almost looked like the hardline was leaking down into the intake. Thought maybe to loosen it at the injector, clamp, and IP and tighten it down from the injector towards the pump.

Thoughts from a novice
 

Cant Write

Full Access Member
Joined
Sep 29, 2021
Posts
866
Reaction score
720
Location
Placerville CO
Regarding your blinking OD light, has it always done it since you got the pickup?

What’s codes does it throw now?

And it sounds like you are burning the candle at all THREE ends!! Good luck!
 

Stu Bailey

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Posts
336
Reaction score
281
Location
Idaho
The candle is getting thin! Haven’t checked codes because I figured it was simply a throttle position issue since I never had any trouble until I installed the new IP. I’ve found some good threads on the tps so I’m going to give them a shot in the morning while I adjust the idle.

I like the injector idea, would tell me if there is something funky going on with that injector or the threads in the chamber. Going to dig in tomorrow and try out new methods :shoot:
 

Stu Bailey

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Posts
336
Reaction score
281
Location
Idaho
BAD NEWS? So after I installed the new pump and injectors, I noticed one of the injectors was leaking. So I took it off and was going to verify a clean chamber and then torque it back down but saw a piece of what looked like rubber in the chamber.

Turns out one of the new injectors failed down on the bottom.
You must be registered for see images attach

They are just factory replacement injectors from a reputable shop. I have a donor truck, could there be a problem with taking an injector from the donor truck and throwing it in? New viton rings on top of it and a new crush washer.

I’m driving out of state in two weeks so I don’t imagine I will be able to get a replacement or however it works out. Thoughts?
 

IDIBRONCO

IDIBRONCO
Joined
Feb 5, 2010
Posts
12,323
Reaction score
11,043
Location
edmond, ks
If you do, I wouldn't run it long term. It won't be matched to your other injectors and that cylinder won't perform as well as the others do.
 

Stu Bailey

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Posts
336
Reaction score
281
Location
Idaho
It just needs to get me to the Oregon Coast @IDIBRONCO 850 miles round trip.

Wife has never been to the Pacific Ocean (she’s from the east coast) so I made these reservations last year and then the truck went down. Been a rustle trying to make it road ready before 12JUN. The injector I took out was vintage United technologies made in Italy class B injector dated 10/85. Kind of cool.

Not a lot of carbon build up at all, mostly just dirt on the top of the injector from it being a date farm truck in so cal.

I’ve already installed the injector so my thoughts now are run it up the grade here, 1,800’ elevation change, and then drive for a bit and check on things. If ol’ Wally looks fine I’m going to send it :music:
 

Nero

HD Diesel nut
Joined
Jan 3, 2022
Posts
2,288
Reaction score
2,309
Location
OR
Let us know when you get to the coast, there's a handful of us that'll look west and wave at ya from Portland
 

Old Goat

Full Access Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2021
Posts
1,658
Reaction score
1,645
Location
Northern Nevada
The Pacific Ocean is just water, with Waves coming in from a different direction.

When I was in the Navy, I saw a lot of that Ocean, too much, and it can get pretty dang angry at times.
That is why Iam in Nevada. Lots of sandy beaches w/o any water.

Come to think about it, I have never seen the Atlantic Ocean.

You are better off purchasing Injectors from one of the 4 recommended builders.




Goat
 

Stu Bailey

Full Access Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Posts
336
Reaction score
281
Location
Idaho
The Pacific Ocean is just water, with Waves coming in from a different direction.

When I was in the Navy, I saw a lot of that Ocean, too much, and it can get pretty dang angry at times.
That is why Iam in Nevada. Lots of sandy beaches w/o any water.

Come to think about it, I have never seen the Atlantic Ocean.

You are better off purchasing Injectors from one of the 4 recommended builders.




Goat
Hahah yeah, Nevada is sweet in a lot of different ways!

I purchased the injectors from one of our favorite suppliers, I always buy my stuff from them if they have the products. I talked to the shop this morning, they said that there is no seal down on the bottom of the injector, that it was just carbon build up from the washer not creating a good seal.

I’m no expert mechanic, that’s for sure. I just know enough, can follow instructions fairly well, and am too stubborn to pay someone to do the work for me. So I wasn’t aware about that and the injectors. He said to clear out the carbon and verify the chamber is super clean then torque it back down to 50ftlbs. So I’m going to try that and hope for the best!

I’ve never felt or seen carbon build up like that though. It was like a piece of rubber. Really weird…
 
Top