Early 94 CC Duallie 4x4 Conversion / Dana 60 / RFS / Superduty springs/ Track bar

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So, in the process of putting this toy together with some '03, 3 link Superduty springs and trying to get the track bar installed.
Now according to Skys off road Design, the track bar is supposed to be level with the front axle. When I do that the track bar is about 8-1/2 inches below the bottom of the engine bay cross member.
This set up is 3900# rated front springs and might just have a hella' arc to them and adding to the height problem.
Without putting this all together, I suspect the measurement to the top outside of the front wheel fender (just above the tire) will be right around 39 inches. A bit higher than my young wife who will be 70 on May 26th might appreciate.
The current problem is how /what might I need to make a track bar work on this toy.
Having gained about 7 inches in ride height from stock is something I might look at later.
Thank you in advance for the responses.
 

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I am not an expert on suspensions, but I dont think it has to be at the same level as the axle. I think what is best is as level as possible at ride height. that will give you the minimum amount of arc up or down.
 

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a quick google search it looks like having the track bar and draglink be parallel is the best for good steering. so maybe that is more important than level. :dunno guess I am not much help. sorry.
 

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I have seen both schools of thought and am curious as to what other folks have done.
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Matching the length and angle with the drag link is best for steering. (Negates bumpsteer)

Level is best for keeping the axle centered under the truck.

With stiffer springs, maybe try without the track bar. Leaf-sprung SAS trucks traditionally didn't run a track bar.... As with Dodge up to 93 and Chevy up to 91.
 

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I appreciate the in info. This is my first rodeo with raising up a vehicle. My young wife who will be 70 in May, gotta love it, say's on one hand, 'I don't wan't the truck raised'. Then on the other hand say's, this morning, " It would be nice to have it raised up above econoboxes".
At this point smoke rolls out of my ears.

" SAS trucks" whuz-zat?
 

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Makes sense, Biggest reason I can see for a track bar is the bushings in the ends of the springs would take more of a beating on sideways movement as the suspension went up and down.
Fun part is to come because I have to get this truck on the ground and find out where level is after I install the rear springs and shackles on those Superduty springs. Time to start moving in other directions to get this completed.
 

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SAS usually means solid axle swap. like taking the TTB out of an F250 and putting a D60 in it place. or on a newer truck removing the independent suspension and putting a solid front axle in.
It sounds to me with your truck being lifted some, I would be leaning toward making it as close to the same length as the drag link and parallel as possible. the only way to get it level would be to build a drop down bracket from the frame or a drop up? LOL LOL bracket from the axle.
 

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I was hoping just to lift the truck, "some". That some being about 2, maybe 4 inches. I suspect this is going to be somewhere between 6 and 8 inches. I suppose the running boards are going to get used some. I currently have an email into Skysoffroaddesign in Eugene, Ore and waiting a response from Clancy.
I suspect he is the owner of the operation down there and see what he has to say.

Another problem being the need to get this toy all hooked up, Engine, Transfer, make linkage for same, the Allison and then drop it down and rework the rear suspension. Eventually I get to get some drive lines made and then finally get it on the road and give the trans a drive cycle.
Yeah. See me next month at this rate.

Oh yeah, Body bushings also before it gets back on the road, seeing as how the front seat is already pulled loose for the transaxle shift hole.
 

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Well, I was going down the road a few days ago, spotted a near identical truck, got turned around and followed it long enough to see that his, while raised up, is only running the sway bar.
Think I will go with that only at this time, when it gets assembled.
 

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I just completed this swap, I found that having the pan hard bar at same angle of drag link made the steering fantastic especially with the SKY shackel reversal kit. Rides great and NO noticeable bump steering
 

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I had to fab my own Pan hard bracket from a chunk of flat steel and I am about a week away from being on the road. I was going to finally fire it off today and the wife decided to take a nap during the hot time of the day. So, that makes it tomorrow when it's above 40 degrees again sometime. Today got to 45 degrees. Oh well. Beyond that is filling the front diff, transfer, hooking up wires and a whole slew of minor problems.
i also need this truck for my back deck project and hauling lumber.
 
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