Sad day and clutch (I thought...)

I think you're thinking of a zf bell, there's diagrams of them where you can drill them to be cross compatible.

Nero said:

I think you're thinking of a zf bell, there's diagrams of them where you can drill them to be cross compatible.

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The threads I found made like there wasn't enough area to drill as well as the pins are in a different place. But really if you can do it go for it, I would.

Jesus Freak said:

I don't know the part #, but the key to these bell housings is that there's no holes for a starter to bolt to. The big block (460, 429,etc) bell housings are all most the exact same, the top 2 bolts are correct but the middle 2 bolts are about 1/4in off. ...

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Not sure if I got it right about holes. On eBay
there are a couple bell housings with part number CTA-7505-B,
one seller replied that it is for gas engines only. So it has to be different part number then.

Those are absolutely not it. I'll take a picture right quick.

Jesus Freak said:

bolt holes. If you get close to NW Florida, I got a couple.

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Sadly I am all the way across the country from sunny Florida. Shipping such bell housing that far will likely be cost prohibitive for me. Appreciate your offer though

Sergey said:

Not sure if I got it right about holes. On eBay

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MukAAOSwS0Finmax/s-l1600.jpg

there are a couple bell housings with part number CTA-7505-B,

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XecAAOSw401inmat/s-l500.jpg

one seller replied that it is for gas engines only. So it has to be different part number then.

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Man Sergey I feel your pain. If it makes you feel any better I've had to pull my transmission out of my jeep probably close to 5 times (whether it was a trans issue or engine issue) which is the NP435 and BW1345 T-case. Very similar to your setup. Last time was after I jumped it in Glamis and the front driveshaft broke and whipped around breaking the bell housing right where the slave cylinder mounted. Completely broke the side of the bellhousing out. I found another on Ebay just like you're doing and went to town with my floor jack and a jumpsuit on taking things apart one by one. Tape up the U-joints as soon as they come off so you're not dropping those in the dirt. Remember baby steps. One thing at a time. It gets overwhelming when you try to turn all the bolts at the same time, you know? I weight about 150 pounds and did it myself. Just take your time and do it safe and right. X2 on fixing anything in there while it's out. Nothing is more frustrating than a leaky rear main right after putting everything back together and it starts throwing oil all over your new clutch if you replaced it. Good luck dude you'll be ok.

That's what you're looking for.

Sergey said:

Sadly I am all the way across the country from sunny Florida. Shipping such bell housing that far will likely be cost prohibitive for me. Appreciate your offer though

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Ha, it's raining here and humid and uncomfortable! I just looked up bell housings on ebay. There's no diesel bells, and the 460 bells I saw were crazily priced. Certainly nothing I would buy and start drilling on.

Here is a 6.9 Bell Housing on CL. $100.00
It is in Monterey, Ca.

Old Goat said:

Here is a 6.9 Bell Housing on CL. $100.00
It is in Monterey, Ca.

Ford truck bellhousing - auto parts - by owner - vehicle automotive...

I have a bellhousing for a 6.9 IDI diesel. I'm pretty sure it will fit a 460 also 650-291-533eight

monterey.craigslist.org

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Now that's a generous Californian!

Old Goat said:

I picked up this one off CL, guy used it one time and just wanted it gone, think I paid $80 for it.
Used it one time to drop my T-19, and worked great, has a larger foot print, and easier to use.

800 lb. Low Lift Transmission Jack

Amazing deals on this 800Lb Low Lift Transmission Jack at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.

www.harborfreight.com

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That's what I used to pull my ZF5. Good piece of gear. You can often find them on FB Marketplace, used once, for a reasonable price.

Jesus Freak said:

Ha, it's raining here and humid and uncomfortable! I just looked up bell housings on ebay. There's no diesel bells, and the 460 bells I saw were crazily priced. Certainly nothing I would buy and start drilling on.

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It has been quite awhile since I checked, I compared a 460 bell against the 6.9 bell, both hydraulic same year trucks, and modding the 460 bell wouldnt work. cant remember if it was because of room for the clutch/flywheel or if it was because of not enough room to drill the holes.....

Black dawg said:

It has been quite awhile since I checked, I compared a 460 bell against the 6.9 bell, both hydraulic same year trucks, and modding the 460 bell wouldnt work. cant remember if it was because of room for the clutch/flywheel or if it was because of not enough room to drill the holes.....

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Yeah, I saw a few threads about it. I'm not a machinist, so I wouldn't gamble on it. And it seems like the consensus is that it won't go, and at $450- $550 plus shipping I'd definitely not even try.

I know you can modify a zf-5 460 bellhousing to fit an IDI, there’s actually a tech article about it here:


I would assume the same can be done for a t-19, but I don’t think I’ve heard of someone doing it.

ROCK HARVEY said:

I know you can modify a zf-5 460 bellhousing to fit an IDI, there’s actually a tech article about it here:

I would assume the same can be done for a t-19, but I don’t think I’ve heard of someone doing it.

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The 4 speed bellhousings I compared, it was a no go.